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Hi Everyone,

Just started my new 120 Gallon and I was wondering - is there a way for me to quick start the cycle process ? I heard of Api Marine Quick Start . Is that any good ?

I plan to keep fish and corals . Thank you !
 
Hi Everyone,

Just started my new 120 Gallon and I was wondering - is there a way for me to quick start the cycle process ? I heard of Api Marine Quick Start . Is that any good ?

I plan to keep fish and corals . Thank you !
Slower is better. Dont rush it or things will go wrong.
 
Slower is better. Dont rush it or things will go wrong.


I agree, I’m actually not planning to put fish in there till Jan, but I thought this would just help build bacteria ?

So far I have my skimmer running , a bag of bacteria from someone’s else’s tank at the inlet in my sump and I am getting a Refugium kit from Algae Barn .

I also have 50lbs of Live Rock. Would adding something like this also be helpful ?

The live sand I got said I could add fish immediately : Nature's Ocean No.0 Bio-Activ Live Aragonite Live Sand for Aquarium, 10-Pound, Natural White https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0018CLX9Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_07x.BbEZBGJW8

Would you recommend also adding in quick start ? How will I know when my tank is ready ??
 
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I recommend going slow, however if you're wanting to help get the cycle going faster I have had good experience with Dr Tim's One & Only (make sure you shake the bottle like crazy before opening so you get all of the stuff out) and Red Sea's Reef Mature Kit.
 
All the bottled bacteria’s work.

You need an ammonia source to keep feeding the bacteria till you add fish.

I would not spend my money on a refugium kit (I’m assuming a Macroalgae) until a few months down the road as you will typically have a hard time keeping it alive due to low nutrients.

And you don’t want your nutrients to low or you open yourself up for dino’s which is not fun.
 
Hello and welcome to the club. Yes, slow is better. If I want to use an bacteria additives use one that is GOOD. I got mine from LFS API Quick Start when I thought that I was going to get some fish that I wanted @ a GOOD price and now i am on month 2 with no fish. This is a 5 year project for me things are falling in place for me now for me to work on my tank.
 
Although there is nothing wrong with cycling a tank with a dead shrimp for 6 months or whatever, and I’m not knocking anybody who does this, but it’s 2018 and science has moved on!

Today you can cycle a tank instantly using a bottle of bacteria. Myself I’ve personally used ATM Colony and it just works as I’m sure do many of the others. The cycle is pretty much instant and the fish go in happy. The end.
 
Thank you all so much for your feedback . Do I need specific bacteria for saltwater fish vs Reef ? Or is it all the same ?

How can I add nutrients to grow the bacteria and keep the Refugium alive ?

Thank you !
 
Thank you all so much for your feedback . Do I need specific bacteria for saltwater fish vs Reef ? Or is it all the same ?

How can I add nutrients to grow the bacteria and keep the Refugium alive ?

Thank you !
As a noob speaking I THINK (not 4 sure) all are the same BUT some have better luck with particular brand. I heard that Bio-Spira is really good, Dr. Tim's is also. I used API QUICK START but mine has been running for 2 months without ANY fish in it. My tank has been cycled for a little while now.
Yesterday my wife said to me "When are you getting your fish, I want to see some fish" and I told her that "I will be getting them next week".

Once your tanks is going good with bacteria it will flow everywhere. Some1 told me that there is NEVER TO MUCH bacteria the extra die off. I heard that Miracle Mud is good for a refugium.
 
If your refugium is growing macro algae, you could add a male molly and not feed it for a week. then start feeding 1 flake per day for a couple of weeks.

the macro algae will consume ammonia directly while still allowing aerobic bacteria to build up and consume the ammonia. So after a week or so the macros start consuming nitrates. so instead of the ammonia->nitrite->nitrate type cycle you may see only s small nitrate bump that drops down after a couple of weeks or so.
 
Was told to use ATM Colony and add few fish 24 hours after for the ammonia to cycle my tank! im in uk so don't know if this is whot most do in the states!
im about to start my new 160 gal tank myself"
 
Hello and yes you should go slow.While you're cycling you should add more rock to your tank that will help out your cycle as well. the fish and corals will be here. Better for you to be comfortable with what you're going to have in your tank to enjoy.. When I first started with my tank back in 2009 I used Bio-spira but I still waited a couple of weeks until I added any fish I just made sure I had enough rock. I ordered some dry rock from marcorocks.com and bought a couple of pieces of live rock from lfs.
 
Hello and yes you should go slow.While you're cycling you should add more rock to your tank that will help out your cycle as well. the fish and corals will be here. Better for you to be comfortable with what you're going to have in your tank to enjoy.. When I first started with my tank back in 2009 I used Bio-spira but I still waited a couple of weeks until I added any fish I just made sure I had enough rock. I ordered some dry rock from marcorocks.com and bought a couple of pieces of live rock from lfs.



How long did it get it take to seed the dry rock with bacteria ?
 
Was told to use ATM Colony and add few fish 24 hours after for the ammonia to cycle my tank! im in uk so don't know if this is whot most do in the states!
im about to start my new 160 gal tank myself"
Yes that’s it John, just follow the instructions and ATM Colony does what is says and cycled straight away. I’ve used it twice
 
There's a cycling thread here on page two available that says live rock is already cycled and needs no bacteria nor ammonia added to keep it ready, as long as you want to wait. I noticed that key detail hadn't been covered, it rarely is covered in current cycling materials

You mentioned having live rock, I'd add it, then plan for fallow/quarantine procedure before adding fish, so they won't die. Amazing side benefit of 76 day fallow=cycling time.


If you add the live rock and the dry+ live sit together until January, then by association the dry materials are cycled.


You would be amazed at how much bacteria build up on your dry surfaces simply by filling saltwater and waiting till January, the water itself you make up always has nitrifers already in it. It's not possible to set up an aquarium in a home and not import nitrifiers, they're part of home biota and will cross contaminate.

Bottle bac purchasing is for beating time constraints, they're not required. You can fill a tank, leave it alone, and it still cycles anyway. In the 80s we did it this way, before the bottle bac phase of the hobby, the phase designed to misrepresent the need for purchasing bac and what bacteria need to survive so that money leaves one set of pockets and moves into another

I still do this in freshwater setups regularly, unassisted cycling. and I've used quick cycle products too so I didn't have to wait on other projects. It's easy to cycle your dry materials independent of the live rock as well if you want to. Fill the tank, dump in any brand of bottle bac and a pinch of food and wait forty days/done, and you don't even have to test for anything, this always works.
 
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Hi Sudman,

In my opinion, accelerated methods of tank cycling are a bad idea. It promotes impatience in a hobby where patience is first and foremost.

A beautiful reef tank is not something a person can impulsively decide to own. It is something that needs to be cultivated and nurtured, allowing it to grow into some of the magnificent displays we often see posted here.

If someone is in a rush to cycle their tank, then they will probably be in a rush to add fish. This usually translates into skipping the practice of quarantining to get the fish in quicker and adding too many at one time. Now you're dealing with huge ammonia spikes because the size of the nitrifying bacteria colony is no match for the bio load. And of course, there is the subject of disease... from lack of quarantining.

As has been mentioned so many times already... please go slow. In the end, it will be less work.
 
Although there is nothing wrong with cycling a tank with a dead shrimp for 6 months or whatever, and I’m not knocking anybody who does this, but it’s 2018 and science has moved on!

Today you can cycle a tank instantly using a bottle of bacteria. Myself I’ve personally used ATM Colony and it just works as I’m sure do many of the others. The cycle is pretty much instant and the fish go in happy. The end.

Ditto!

I added Dr Tim’s, API, and Bio Spira just because.

Dosed ammonia to 2ppm, watched it go to 0.

Fish arrived, and added to the tank.

Easy and more fun than watching a dead shrimp rot
 

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