Rbta changing color and shrinking

levi83 · Aug 22, 2017

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drtrash said:
So if light intensity is low the anemone would produce more zoos to supply more food and therefore darken so more intense light would lighten color less zoo's not bleaching just lighter color correct?

think they bleach either way. Too much or not enough. I don't think lighting is my issue but I am going to try to shorten my photoperiod.

Amoo · Aug 22, 2017

drtrash said:
So if light intensity is low the anemone would produce more zoos to supply more food and therefore darken so more intense light would lighten color less zoo's not bleaching just lighter color correct?

If the light spectrum is incorrect or the intensity too low, the Nem will not be able to properly produce zoos no zoos no nem.

If the light spectrum incorrect or intensity too high the Zoos are photo-inhibited from producing causing the nem to bleach.

When the spectrum and intensity is correct most people find their Nems color up to a nice eye appealing color; However, if the spectrum is correct and the intensity is slightly too high the animal begins to darken from the over influx of zoos, hence why many shallow reef nems are brown, but the same animal in a deeper reef is more vibrant.

That's over-simplifying it the best I can I think. If you're still confused feel free to ask.

EDIT: I felt the need to add that if the spectrum is just wrong and you aren't getting the proper spectrum to the animal it will simply not be able to produce Zoos regardless of the intensity. Hence why we can't just take a $10 Halogen bulb and run our nems under that.

drtrash · Aug 22, 2017

We see a lot of color shifts in anemone and mostly to darker color ( browned) to wondering if the color is telling you to increase intensity or decrease (assuming correct spectrum)? I have had yellow shift to brownish or red. Early use of led turned all acans red or orange

Jennie · Aug 22, 2017

Has anyone tried Melafix on a sick nem? Just asking because my order of cipro and
Sulfamethoxazole/Trimethoprim won't be here until late next week.

Amoo · Aug 22, 2017

drtrash said:
We see a lot of color shifts in anemone and mostly to darker color ( browned) to wondering if the color is telling you to increase intensity or decrease (assuming correct spectrum)? I have had yellow shift to brownish or red. Early use of led turned all acans red or orange

Oh man, I'm really not sure how deep down this rabbit hole I want to go. Hopefully I can say this much and leave it at that, as like I said I DO NOT want to start a heated thread, especially not in a thread where somebody was looking for help with their particular issue. It doesn't matter if it is a nem or an Acan or anything. If it has too much Zoos because of the correct spectrum at too bright of an output (not so bright you photo-inhibit it), you will get darkening/browning of corals/nems...etc. As I'm sure many of you know, you can take the same green Acan and turn it green or blue or red depending on what light you feed it. Nems are not much different except the fact you can't really get multiple color variations out of the same Nem (That we have discovered yet and IO have read about or seen) other then browned out or vibrant. I hope this clears up what I am saying.

levi83 · Aug 22, 2017

I shortened photoperiod and cut my 60% down to 45% and one from down below moved up to the top of the rock.

drtrash · Aug 22, 2017

Other than shrinking your nem is shifting color so its either chemistry based or light, have had same issue hard part is hit and miss. Start with stable water quality and move on too spectrum and intensity

drtrash · Aug 22, 2017

I am going in opposite direction so will see results. Bta are strange creatures, color is a moving target, healthy first aesthetics second

levi83 · Aug 22, 2017

I don't care about the color. I just want to make sure they're healthy. I know they would be fine in my tank downstairs. I just want them in my bedroom tank. I messed with the spectrum already. Water quality is good.

Amoo · Aug 22, 2017

levi83 said:
I don't care about the color. I just want to make sure they're healthy. I know they would be fine in my tank downstairs. I just want them in my bedroom tank. I messed with the spectrum already. Water quality is good.

wait did you move your blues down or just your CW? I think you would have been fine just moving your CW down and shortening your photo-period.

levi83 · Aug 22, 2017

I took the blues down to 45%. Took cw down from 29 to 15

levi83 · Aug 28, 2017

I hate it but I had to give up and move my rock downstairs. I'll try again in a month or two. Nems just kept getting worse.

drtrash · Aug 28, 2017

Apple's and oranges, your nano and 210 will never be the same. Could hope for some overlap but chemistry stability, flow, and light levels all different therefore critters response will be different

levi83 · Aug 28, 2017

Absolutely. They will probably heal up in my 210 and I can try again sometime. They are under an 8 bulb ati now with extremely stable conditions.

levi83 · Aug 28, 2017

The nanocube will stay running and I'll stick it with a few things.

levi83 · Aug 28, 2017

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Mr. Limpid · Aug 29, 2017

Anemone swell to take in fresh water and deflate to expel same. If they haven't swelled in awhile I agree something is in your water to make them not want to take in water. Do a water change 20% and make sure to test your PH of tank and new water. I have used many different salts all have had low PH right out of the bag. Your color is good, dark anemone means they have a lot of algae growing in them. You may want to add some type of fish, fish poop is good.

levi83 · Aug 29, 2017

I was doing weekly 20% waterchanges. I agree fish poop is good. Was feeding nems though. Had zero nitrates and ph was 8.0. A little low I know but it has never been an issue before. I gave up on that tank for the time being. I was waiting for a clown from a friend but he couldn't catch it. I'm going to put a small fish in there and let the nems heal up and try again. Thanks for the info!