Reef radiance starfire

[Boiler13]

I'll give it a go! Thanks!

 

[Catchemall]

Sta=slave is the key understanding one has to be the master and the other slave will help. If you don't have both wifi numbers within the app it was done wrong. If you need further help just let me know.

 

[ptong]

I would like to follow this thread. I just bought 3 Starfire from Rick, at Reefradience. It should be arriving in 2 weeks. Rick said he would program it for me and I only need to plug it in and enjoy. My tank is 240 g., 72" long, 24" wide and 28" deep.
Any recommendation on the setting? I am need to all these technologies. The last reef tank I had was15 years ago. Currently the tank is running 60" 8 bulbs T5. 2 coral pluses, 1 purple plus and 5 blue pluses.

 

[Catchemall]

That was one thing they mentioned they were gonna start doing was preprogramming the lights mine has four different preprogrammed schedules but they are all way to bright then there is a custom one which I use. Plug and play would be a lot easier but a par meter is still needed but unfortunately I don't know anyone with one around me. Congrats to not having to buy expensive bulbs again though[emoji1376] you'll enjoy them more because of that alone haha.

 

[Boiler13]

That fixed my problem. I agree, don't run the programs on it. The highest I ever got was 60% white and 80% blue and saw negative effects. I just adjusted mine again to see what happens. I'm at 30% white and 70% blue.

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

That was one thing they mentioned they were gonna start doing was preprogramming the lights mine has four different preprogrammed schedules but they are all way to bright then there is a custom one which I use. Plug and play would be a lot easier but a par meter is still needed but unfortunately I don't know anyone with one around me. Congrats to not having to buy expensive bulbs again though[emoji1376] you'll enjoy them more because of that alone haha.

lux meter.
100,000 lux (daylight at noon) = 2,000 par (100,000 / 50 (sun constant)=2000)
SO
5,000 lux = 100 par
measure at the top of the tank.
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/lighting-upgrade-with-a-lux-meter-saltyfilmfolks.248417/

yes its easy math, so no debate on t5 @38 constant = bla bla bla the par hitting one coral is 275.333333 par Please.
this is My lighting K.I.S.S 5000, lux = 100 par. 2500 lux = 50 par. Now we can acclimate the easy way.

a mars aqua is actually about a 63 constant fwiw.

 

[Catchemall]

lux meter.
100,000 lux (daylight at noon) = 2,000 par (100,000 / 50 (sun constant)=2000)
SO
5,000 lux = 100 par
measure at the top of the tank.
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/lighting-upgrade-with-a-lux-meter-saltyfilmfolks.248417/

yes its easy math, so no debate on t5 @38 constant = bla bla bla the par hitting one coral is 275.333333 par Please.
this is My lighting K.I.S.S 5000, lux = 100 par. 2500 lux = 50 par. Now we can acclimate the easy way.

a mars aqua is actually about a 63 constant fwiw.

This helps thanks for posting this. As long as I can get a ballpark figure or idea of where I'm at I'll be fine with that I'm not that concerned because everything seems happy but still want to have an idea. What brand lux meter is the $15 one? Where can I buy one?

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00A...=lux+meter&dpPl=1&dpID=31vhBvdG1yL&ref=plSrch

 

[Catchemall]

[emoji1360]

 

[Boiler13]

Here is how far my lights are from my tank. I just turned my whites down to 30 to see if my brightest comes back around. It's only day 2 on 30.

 

[rainmaker]

Looks like about right distance see how things look in couple days

 

[Catchemall]

I have a 90 so I think it's 24" tall I have mine around 6-8" above the waterline.

 

[rainmaker]

Run mine at about 10'' on a 30'' deep 150

 

[Catchemall]

lux meter.
100,000 lux (daylight at noon) = 2,000 par (100,000 / 50 (sun constant)=2000)
SO
5,000 lux = 100 par
measure at the top of the tank.
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/lighting-upgrade-with-a-lux-meter-saltyfilmfolks.248417/

yes its easy math, so no debate on t5 @38 constant = bla bla bla the par hitting one coral is 275.333333 par Please.
this is My lighting K.I.S.S 5000, lux = 100 par. 2500 lux = 50 par. Now we can acclimate the easy way.

a mars aqua is actually about a 63 constant fwiw.

Can you make me understand the last sentence what does it mean when you say 63 constant? Also I tried the galactica lux meter and don't understand the reading. I'm not trying to be 100% accurate just trying to understand what I'm seeing the highest number I could get was 345 lux right under the led.

 

[Wiz]

I have the 165p+ x2 and run them at 100 blue and 85 white for 3 hours in the middle of the day. Ramped up and down. 12 hours total. Tank was a 40b till a week ago. Corals are great. All kinds. And nems. here is the last pic before the move and upgrade. And I added a dual t5 to my new 75g with the same led sched. Second pic is now.

 

[Boiler13]

I felt like I just burnt up my corals when I was that high.

 

[Catchemall]

Yea I wouldn't have any left lol

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

Can you make me understand the last sentence what does it mean when you say 63 constant? Also I tried the galactica lux meter and don't understand the reading. I'm not trying to be 100% accurate just trying to understand what I'm seeing the highest number I could get was 345 lux right under the led.

In short layman's terms. A "constant" is value given to a light source for its amount of par.
like a rating, but with math. A "better" light has a lower "constant"

This the long non layman's version.http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2008/2/review

the sun(50 constant) at 100,000 lux is 2000 par.
A light bulb from your garage(75 constant) = 1,333 par.
A chinese black box (constant of 63) = 1587 par.
NOW a Coralife 14k Metal Halide (constant of 30!!!)=3300 par!!!!!!

now on a med to high light tank with the top of the water at 40,000 lux...... same math.
sun=800 par
Shop light=533 par
Chinese BB=634 par
14k MH=1333 Par

FWIW I dont recommend the App a lot as I get more questions on how to read it and make it work correctly than reading what its saying(because its a phone with a camera not a meter.)
. I really recommend the $14 meter from amazon. You turn it on and put it under the light. It reads it.
a camera has as many or more problems reading led than an older par meter.(thats a long story)

so if your reading, ill assume, 34,500 lux under the light at the top of the water under a GOOD average light. 34500/(50)=690 par & under a Chinese BB =547 par

easy.

figuring out what corals take what amount and color of a light. Now that's the hard part.

But now buy having an actual reading of intensity you can increase or decrease with much more efficiency for acclimation. And if you feel it needs to be less bright you can turn it down in actual increments. IN LUX
5000 lux @50=100 par 2500 lux @50 = 50 par.
Yes its an estimation but calculated, not like guessing 30%, because 30% of what. 100%? How much is 100%?

If 100%= 60,000 lux. Now you can estimate par. and turn it down in actual increments of metered lux intensity and par.

 

[Catchemall]

Thanks for the help @saltyfilmfolks. Ok maybe just one more question. How does one come to get the constant number how do you know what constant a certain light is like the Chinese black box being a constant of 63?

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

That article has several lux par conversion factors. There is another by D Ridle on Led, but its kinda old and his LED samples are very low. Def not what Im seeing from multiple uses of various led arrays.(pre radion I belive)
To get that you put the light in a "black box" test the par, test the lux. Do the math.
Over the last several months I have been talking to folks with par meters and some with lux meters some with both. SO they all helped me collect the data to do the math.
the 63 fwiw is both channels being in at a 1 to 1 ratio.

I also google image search par charts a lot.

black box test , no colors no reflections to skew color(par) and reflections(intensity)