Reef saver rock

Brew12 · Sep 18, 2016

reeferfoxx said:
We are talking about nitrifying bacteria. +1 for Google if you haven't looked that up yet.

I am familiar with nitrifying bacteria. There are many different types of nitrifying bacteria and some of them can be very long lived without a food source.
If you take a sterile rock, put it in an sterile aquarium and dose some ammonia into it, it may take awhile but nitrifying bacteria naturally floating in the air will cause the tank to cycle. It could take a long time but it will eventually happen. These airborne nitrifying bacteria would have had to been floating in the air for quite awhile without a food source in order to cause this to occur.

reeferfoxx · Sep 18, 2016

Brew12 said:
I am familiar with nitrifying bacteria. There are many different types of nitrifying bacteria and some of them can be very long lived without a food source.
If you take a sterile rock, put it in an sterile aquarium and dose some ammonia into it, it may take awhile but nitrifying bacteria naturally floating in the air will cause the tank to cycle. It could take a long time but it will eventually happen. These airborne nitrifying bacteria would have had to been floating in the air for quite awhile without a food source in order to cause this to occur.

Sorry, we are on the same page. I ment the nitrogen cycle stops without a food source for nitrifying bacteria. I had it wrong the first time.

cromag27 · Sep 18, 2016

I'm guessing it would be a low dose of ammonia in that case.

reeferfoxx said:
What seem counter productive? If a fish was your ammonia source, add a fish. No fish? Dose ammonia. You can wait 24 hours for ammonia source if you like? Bacteria doesn't live long without something to feed on. Am I wrong?

reeferfoxx · Sep 18, 2016

cromag08 said:
I'm guessing it would be a low dose of ammonia in that case.

Sure. Or a fish? I mean, i like a good looking bio-spira with ammonia tank any day but fish are cool too.

Brew12 · Sep 18, 2016

reeferfoxx said:
Once you understand how bacteria reproduces, this conversation can come to a halt. Look up Endospores. Are we debating something or...?

Forming endospores is the way a bacteria can survive without a food source or under extremely adverse conditions for extreme periods of time. Many bacteria can survive without forming endospores, without food, under good conditions for many months. Otherwise you couldn't bring a product like Bio-spira to market because of a short shelf life. Those bacteria stay live for months without a food source.
I'm not sure why you bring reproduction into a discussion on survival. Many species can survive without food and adapt by stopping reproduction.

reeferfoxx · Sep 18, 2016

Brew12 said:
Forming endospores is the way a bacteria can survive without a food source or under extremely adverse conditions for extreme periods of time. Many bacteria can survive without forming endospores, without food, under good conditions for many months. Otherwise you couldn't bring a product like Bio-spira to market because of a short shelf life. Those bacteria stay live for months without a food source.
I'm not sure why you bring reproduction into a discussion on survival. Many species can survive without food and adapt by stopping reproduction.

Sorry. I edited that post. We are on the same page. I wasn't properly conveying my message. I realize I misspoke.