SeaTak is launching! Woohoo!

[AydenLincoln]

Who’s your last? Something fishy?

Yes.

 

[USMA36]

I had high hopes. Bought a tube at CT frag farmers market. They were doing demonstrations in how to uses. First the price is ridiculous 30.00 for 2oz. If it worked it might be worth it. Using it to mount frags is an exercise in futility. It doesn’t stick to anything other than my fingers. (Yes I followed the directions). The cure time is just too long. 6 hours to 4 days for a firm set. A soft set takes 2 hours but isn’t strong enough in a reef tank with any kind of flow. About 3/4 of the frags I mounted failed to hold either the coral to the plug or the plug disk to the rock. No matter how well you clean the tube you won’t get the cap off again without pliers. Once open the top seals itself and I need to shove a screwdriver into the tube or I can’t squeeze anything out. Maybe it’ll work great for dry rock and aquascaping that you can leave out to set, but for anything else Tunze putty and good old crazy glue will have to work. dissapointed I fell for such an expensive product.

 

[bnord]

has anyone tried it yet as a scape support?

I bought a tube, just delivered and now don't want to open it - maybe save it for building structures?

 

[schprock]

I was a pre tester
Same experience as in posts above

Then I mixed the glue with 2 part epoxy - works well to glue rocks together underwater

 

[sigsreef]

has anyone tried it yet as a scape support?

I bought a tube, just delivered and now don't want to open it - maybe save it for building structures?

Don't, I just got my 2oz tube and the adhesive has seemingly partially cured inside the tube without me even opening it. It takes all of my strength, with both hands, just to try and squeeze out just 1/2 inch of thickened paste. I'm rather concerned the tube will break. The adhesive is very difficult to use as it is, but more so as it is partially hardened. I have had difficulty getting anything to stick, but with it being so hard to squeeze I won't be able to use it what I wanted to do, which was adfix stuff underwater. I have tried contacting Champion Lighting by email for support, but that appears to be a dead end. I seriously doubt I will be able to actually use my tube before the sides just burst from the product hardening inside the tube.

 

[USMA36]

I had that issue as well. I rammed an old Allen key down the tube and it made it a little easier to squeeze out.

 

[USMA36]

@ChampionLighting i hope you’re reading these. I left feedback on your site as well and have not heard anything back. Between here and Fb tons of comments and disappointed users that feel taken advantage of.

 

[USMA36]

Champion lighting posted this on a fb page.
“Hey everyone, thanks for your feedback! We realize that many at the show may not have had a chance to chat with us one-on-one and get a detailed demo of exactly how to apply and use SeaTak. We’d like to remedy that by going LIVE to address your questions this Sunday, March 26th at 6PM EDT.

In order to gather supplies similar to those you are working with, we kindly ask you to tell us what items you’re trying to glue and send a photo or short video. Are you trying to glue an acro frag to a frag plug? Or a hammer coral to a piece of rubble rock? Let us know & we’ll show you the exact method for your individual situation. We’ll be answering questions live as well.

We understand that you may have used up a lot of your tube trying different methods. For those of you who send us photos or videos and tell us how you’re trying to use the product, we will not only demonstrate the best application methods, we will also send you an additional tube at No Charge.

Please message us directly.”

 

[schprock]

I was hoping this product would be able to secure rockscape underwater

for gluing frags to plugs or lps to rubble 2 part epoxy from Lowe’s and superglue gel works just fine

 

[Syntax1235]

$30 paper weight. Useless. So frustrating trying to get this stuff to hold, and only to have a frag fall off an hour later in very light flow.

 

[oreolk]

Don't want to be a hater but...... This stuff is a disappointment. A little ball of epoxy with super glue has always worked for me and I really wanted to love Seatak, but sometines the old ways are best. Maybe this stuff works great with rebuilding reefs with a large caulking gun but not so much for aquascaping a reef tank.

 

[Mightyhog]

I just started using this for my new aquascape (dry marco reef saver) and it works great. Picked it up at Something Fishy. It definately takes some getting used to. I use some super glue in some instances for the 'instant' set and use a little pea size amount of Seatak to sure up the seams/contact points. Then I've been covering it in rock dust and a lite spray of water to start the curing. Yeah, the cure time is a bit disappointing. Once dry, this stuff is STRONG. Now if they could work on bringing the cost down and possibly a faster set/cure time, I'd go all in on this stuff. Gluing frags with super glue just can't be beat, cost wise though.

 

[AydenLincoln]

has anyone tried it yet as a scape support?

I bought a tube, just delivered and now don't want to open it - maybe save it for building structures?

I did use it to glue a rock and it definitely is extremely strong. It is a bit messy and takes some practice to use.

 

[Pntbll687]

I dropped some money and got the tube with the applicator gun as well.

HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT is an understatement. I could not get frags to stay. The seem to stick at the beginning, but as soon as you put them in a tank with any flow, they just don't stick. I thought I must be doing something wrong, watched the videos, and from the examples, you need to use an excessive amount to get this stuff to work.

I decided to do a couple experiments. I tried gluing frag plugs together, both dry/damp/submerged. All three times the adhesive fails to stick with any type of force. I was able to separate the plugs with a light twist of pressure, and then I was able to get the adhesive to come of the plug by using my fingernail again with very little pressure.

The one thing that I did notice, was in the videos the presenter talked about how the adhesive will develop a "skin" on it as it begins to cure. I think this is where the issue is happening. The "skin" starts developing on the edges, and works it's way through the adhesive, and actually pulls the adhesive off the plug/coral as the "skin" develops.

I wish the product worked better, this was promising, but clearly missed the mark.

 

[Risk1994]

I was also excited about this product. Heard about it on reef beef podcast. I picked up a small tube (for $30!) at the Frag Farmers Market. I've never been great at gluing wet frags so was really looking forward to something new.

It has the same consistency as toothpaste, just squeeze out of the tube and seat the frag in it. No need to touch with your fingers....

Unfortunately, it has no holding strength at application...zero. The only thing holding frags in place is gravity. If I tilt the frag plug it falls over, if I hold upside down (like in the video) it falls out. If the frag starts to lean (and it will) it falls. If you manage to balance it perfectly and somehow manage to get it in the tank, any flow will knock it over.

People are reporting sticky hands, that's probably because you need to keep fiddling with it, building up little mountains on each side to hold up the frag. If the frag is not balanced perfectly it just falls over. Very frustrating.

I watched Champions video on how to apply...interesting they show them using wide flat montipora only. There's a reason for that.

I tried the following permutations...

• wet frag plug and wet frag
• pat dried frag plug and frag
• placed a blob on a plug and let sit for several minutes before placing wet frag, then a pat dried frag.

Once cured it seems to hold just fine, but curing takes a long time. If you somehow manage to get it in the tank upright you'll likely find it firmly attached...laying on its side... the next morning.

Basically, of all the options I've used for attaching frags, this is the worst one...super glue and epoxy are much better and much cheaper.

 

[shakacuz]

glad i waited… you guys saved my pockets!

 

[RedoubtReef]

bummer. I'm also glad I did not purchase. Was very excited about this. I think if you are settings up dry rock with no water in the tank, maybe it works great. I'll stick with epoxy.

 

[Risk1994]

bummer. I'm also glad I did not purchase. Was very excited about this. I think if you are settings up dry rock with no water in the tank, maybe it works great. I'll stick with epoxy.

I'm sure its very strong when set up, if your building with dry rock you'd need something to hold the rock in place for a day until it cures. This doesn't have any holding strength until then.

Maybe if you glue together with CA and accelerator you could fill in cracks with this stuff, but its pretty expensive for that.

 

[winemanta]

So, I tried SeaTak after seeing it at Reefapalooza. I will say, it works great for fragging. I could easily attach the frags to the plugs using the product. With that being said, it did not work as well gluing underwater to my rock work in the tank. It preferred my glove over the rock or the plug. I must have gone through a dozen gloves gluing half a dozen plugs. Any little bit of product on the glove wasn’t worth the frustration. It does like to stick to itself, so if you can get a good amount to stick to the rock and the plug, then you are home free with it holding. I am on day 2 of curing and so far my urchins haven’t destroyed them. I’m not sure I will use this again for anything other than fragging.

 

[Spicy Reef]

I was super hyped about getting some last year, now after reading peoples experiences, and the super duper price. I'll stay away and use the old tried and true superglue + epoxy putty...