Seeking Oppinions for Tank Tear Down

Everything was going smoothly before the carbon spill/velvet incident
Tank pre carbon:velvet.jpg

IMG_1911.jpg
 
I agree with The fallow period instead of starting over. Two things come to mind. The snappin shrimp & the sand bed. Many differing ways to deal with the shrimp. Live rock can stay out of water for a good amount time with out hurting it. The shrimp however won't like it & come out of hiding .As for the sand, vacuum it out & add new "prewashed " sand . When just starting is the most important time to be patient & the most difficult !
While your tank sits fallow will give Ya plenty of time to do these things & keep Ya busy instead of rushing things. Wish You the best !
 
Very thorough note keeping. Good parameters so does not seem to be that. I’d still hold off on sps for awhile. Good luck
 
Thank You. Yeah, gonna hold off on, Acros particularly. My 3 montiporas and 1 stylophora are doing fine but the acros are dieing. I just started to dip my corals so hopefully thats one part of the solution.
 
In my opinion going fallow and tearing the sand bed out will help you in two ways. One your rock will be past the four month mark maturing in the aquarium and you won't lose what you already have. Keep in mind what you already have is years of sitting in the ocean before KP harvested it! I agree with some of the others that trying to trap or use one of the methods, dry etc. to get the shrimp. Tearing the sand bed out this early in the tanks maturation shouldn't be a big deal and with little in the tank this shouldn't cause too many problems. Just keep in mind the first year with no sand bed is a pain in the butt while the tank ages in. That having been said I have zero tanks with a sand bed right now.

The fallow period works, but it only works if you adhere to a quarantine protocol afterwards. Are there a few isolated incidents of it failing, sure. I am of the mindset however that this failure is not due to the fallow period itself failing but the aquarist failing to adhere to the protocols to keep the tank disease free. If an aquarist leave the tank fallow for 76 days, and they have zero cross contamination the moment they put anything wet in there that hasn't followed a 76 day quarantine protocol, earlier for fish that are prophylactically treated to wipe out diseases, the aquarist renders the whole thing moot. The second you place one of your corals back in without treating it somehow you destroy anything you've done to eradicate the disease. Others may know more about this than I do, but the only way I know to treat coral for ich and velvet is the fallow period. Yes, ich can adhere itself in its sedentary stage to your corals.

Excellent spreadsheet!! Thank you for having so much detail! I'm looking at some of the swings in specific gravity and alkalinity and wincing. I'm hoping that the several days in between some of the testing is the time frame taken to make some of the changes. Acros like rock solid parameters your alk should not swing like that while trying to keep them. I would suggest adding an ATO to your setup to keep the SG stable as well. I'm thinking those swings are what killed the acros. When keeping them test your alkalinity daily, a Hanna checker is a wise investment to cut down on the headache of doing this.

If you are dead set on tearing it down, wiping out the rock and starting over do not use copper in the DT or on the rock, if you do you take the chance of it being absorbed by the rock, silicone in the aquarium etc, and leaching back out over time. The only sure way to rid the rock of disease and pests without using the animals biology against it is bleach. At this point you will be killing everything and starting at zero, like the day zero before KP put it in the ocean. I did this to make completely sure I killed off bubble algae, aptasia and vermatiid snails that I introduced when I was impatient. Now I just hit the one month mark and I haven't even turned the lights on yet. You will be setting yourself way back and possibly have a tank too sterile for the montis and stylo until it ages in.

Whatever you decide to do, good luck, I'll stop hammering you on the fallow period. The last thing I'll state before that is to take the advice of those that have come before you and made the mistakes already. You are stating that your intuition is telling you to tear down the tank, kill off everything in and on the rock and start over. My intuition based on being in the hobby since 1990 and making many a mistake, is you are headed down the road to more heartache. Again, good luck!!
 
I would not throw in the towel just yet. I had a similar occurrence about 6 months in and lost all of my fish to velvet. Plugged on, quarantine everything that comes in and have made a comeback now with 5 fish. Push on, slow down and don’t let this bump set you back
 

IF YOU HAD TO TAKE A REEFING EXAM, WOULD YOU PASS?

  • Yes!

    Votes: 32 45.7%
  • Not yet, but I have one that I want to buy in mind!

    Votes: 9 12.9%
  • No.

    Votes: 26 37.1%
  • Other (please explain).

    Votes: 3 4.3%
Back
Top