Should i just restart?

[Pvtgloss]

I think @PaulB made his own

Sweet. Thanks

 

[Pvtgloss]

Absolutely, that's why it's growing on your rock. LOOK

INVERTS, DIMMING LIGHTS, FLUX, TURF SCRUBBERS, MOLLIES, PROTEIN SKIMMERS, TOOTH BRUSHES, REFUGIUMS, ECT. Are not going to unbind bound phosphate. These are mostly used as a preventative or preventatives. I'll bet if you take a rock out now and place it in a gallon of freshly made saltwater you'll get 0.4 - 0.8 tonight or maybe even higher.

Makes sense. I've never thought of it that way. You have me thinking. I wonder if I could take one rock out at a time and put it in a spare tank with a bunch of gfo? Then replace and grab another one.

 

[NeedAReef]

Absolutely, that's why it's growing on your rock. LOOK

INVERTS, DIMMING LIGHTS, FLUX, TURF SCRUBBERS, MOLLIES, PROTEIN SKIMMERS, TOOTH BRUSHES, REFUGIUMS, ECT. Are not going to unbind bound phosphate. These are mostly used as a preventative or preventatives. I'll bet if you take a rock out now and place it in a gallon of freshly made saltwater you'll get 0.4 - 0.8 tonight or maybe even higher.

that is a good test.

 

[Rjukan]

I have the same tank, and the same GHA issues. But one difference is I test +.90 for phosphate consistently. I know it's because of bound phos in the rock and sand. The only way I've seen it go down was when I was dosing LC while using an algae scrubber, and reducing nitrates at the same time. I took the scrubber offline because I was worried about dropping nitrate too low, but only a week later phos was back over .90 and it hasn't budged since. I'm running it again now, and hope to see some movement on my phos values again.
I am surprised that your phos reads so low though. It would be very interesting to see the results of what @UMALUM suggests and put a rock in a container and see what phosphate reads over a few days.

 

[jabberwock]

Keep in mind that if you restart, you're restarting all of it. Uglies and all

Not necessarily. Real ocean live rock is very resistant to "the uglies".

 

[NanoNana]

Ok, for one more dent to your wallet. There is one member of cuc you haven’t tried and one is literally eating exactly what you have at the same height if not a little taller in places right this very second in my own tank.
Lettuce nudibranch.

This stuff sprouted on a bunch Zoa frags, it spread to my gobstopper colony and I had a three inch massive shoot in the middle of the colony. Last time I scrubbed around that colony I had a metallic taste for 24 hours so I wasn’t about to do it again. I bought the nudibranch, it’s doing a bang up job.
The rock where the fuzzy chitons live has never gotten the stuff on it at all.

 

[Reefering1]

Not necessarily. Real ocean live rock is very resistant to "the uglies".

I don't necessarily disagree with you. But the 1st thing that comes to mind is, "but he's almost through it, barely has tuffs on the edges of rocks"

 

[Pvtgloss]

So I just finished scrubbing the rocks. I scrubbed some in the tank while siphoning. Others I took out and scrubbed and spot treated with h202. Crazy it took 8 hrs. But I was very meticulous in scrubbing and siphoning. Trying to siphon every bit up before moving to another section.
I'll test my nutrients tomorrow and let you guys know. I'm going on an 8 day cruise Friday so I'll probably do one more 10 gal water change Thursday.
I tried to take pictures of the same areas as the Others. It seems impossible to get all the hair. Even taking the rocks out.

 

[Pvtgloss]

Ok, for one more dent to your wallet. There is one member of cuc you haven’t tried and one is literally eating exactly what you have at the same height if not a little taller in places right this very second in my own tank.
Lettuce nudibranch.

Lettuce nudibranch and chitons is next on my list. I'm definitely going to buy them when I get back from the cruise.
Thank you

 

[Pod_01]

I suspect you need more corals/ coral mass.

Your rock is nice and clean and invitation for something to grow on it. If not corals you get algae.

I feed once a day. CS pro flake or DKI pellets. All the food gets ate within a min. Sometimes I'll feed SF Bay mysis, half a cube.

Also my own observation, some foods can lead to algae.

I had lot of luck by feeding FM Soft Multimix and I do feed 4 times a day. Generous pinch each time.

Also coral foods promote algae, aminos as well.

I never had luck controlling algae by reducing PO4 or NO3, mostly ended up with dead corals.

My most recent PO4:

Corals:

Good luck,

 

[Pvtgloss]

I suspect you need more corals/ coral mass.

Your rock is nice and clean and invitation for something to grow on it. If not corals you get algae.



Also my own observation, some foods can lead to algae.

I had lot of luck by feeding FM Soft Multimix and I do feed 4 times a day. Generous pinch each time.

Also coral foods promote algae, aminos as well.

I never had luck controlling algae by reducing PO4 or NO3, mostly ended up with dead corals.

My most recent PO4:

Corals:

Good luck,

Nice pics. Can I see a full tank shot.

 

[Sump Crab]

I wouldn't give up on the tank, just the cocktail of chemicals and snake oils you ate trying to fight the algae with. I would make a chamber of your AIO into a redugium for chaeto and then run a small skimmer as well. Hard for the ocean to work well without the beach or estuary. Good luck.

 

[Pod_01]

Nice pics. Can I see a full tank shot.

My tank is work in progress, few years back I had accident (when on vacation I turned it freshwater). At that time I lost 60% of it so I re scaped (Removed some rocks that got run over by pests), added new rocks so at the moment it is mix of old and new.

Some pictures from before the crash:

 

[Pvtgloss]

My tank is work in progress, few years back I had accident (when on vacation I turned it freshwater). At that time I lost 60% of it so I re scaped (Removed some rocks that got run over by pests), added new rocks so at the moment it is mix of old and new.

Some pictures from before the crash:

Wow, very nice. What fish do you have in there?

 

[Pvtgloss]

I went on vacation chronological 10 days so I had to skip a WC. Got back and the tank looks like this.

I had it all cleaned up before vacation. When i got home i bought some chitons, a lettuce nudibranch and a pencil urchin.
I placed the chitons on the algae and they have just crawled past it all and now they rest on clean rocks. Same with urchin. The crawled out of the hair algae and found the glass.
May be time to just restart. Nothing eats it. Fluconazole don't kill it. I feel like I'm wasting time scrubbing the rocks just so it can come back full force in 10 days.

 

[danreef55]

Can you get a better picture of the algae. Does it look like this

 

[Pvtgloss]

Can you get a better picture of the algae. Does it look like this

 

[danreef55]

I still cannot tell. Here is something you can try. Remove one small piece of rock with the algae. Use approximately a 3% solution of H2O2 to spot treat a small area of algae using a syringe or pipette. Let it sit for a couple of minutes then rinse in clean saltwater. If it is hair algae it should die within a few hours. Bryopsis may require multiple treatment.

 

[jabberwock]

There is no shame in restarting. Plan it out. Do it carefully to preserve your existing livestock.

 

[tobster]

I went on vacation chronological 10 days so I had to skip a WC. Got back and the tank looks like this.

I had it all cleaned up before vacation. When i got home i bought some chitons, a lettuce nudibranch and a pencil urchin.
I placed the chitons on the algae and they have just crawled past it all and now they rest on clean rocks. Same with urchin. The crawled out of the hair algae and found the glass.
May be time to just restart. Nothing eats it. Fluconazole don't kill it. I feel like I'm wasting time scrubbing the rocks just so it can come back full force in 10 days.

I’m in the same boat you are with my biocube. I used the caribsea purple rock and have been fighting algae for well over a year now.
I think it must have a lot of phosphate in it.
I’ve cleaned the rock’s with H2O2 and it came back in about a week also.