Sick Naso in QT

revhtree · Mar 5, 2017

Out of my fish order I have a Naso tank in a tank with a convict tang and a goby. He has ich or velvet but I'm leaning towards ich. He has some large crusty white spots on a fin and a few spots on his body. I also haven't seen him eat since adding him to QT Thursday night. The other fish in the tank are eating and not showing any signs but I know they have been exposed.

My question is should I start coopersafe now even though he's not eating?

I'll try to grab a pic now.

Humblefish · Mar 5, 2017

Sounds like Lympho: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/lymphocystis.257461/

Throw up a pic.

revhtree · Mar 5, 2017

Better video...

revhtree · Mar 5, 2017

Dang sorry about the sideway video!

See what you think.

Humblefish · Mar 5, 2017

@revhtree I'm sorta seeing something on the pectoral fin, but its not clear.

Nasos can be reluctant eaters in QT. @4FordFamily can help.

revhtree · Mar 5, 2017

Sorry the video looks terrible! On the phone it looks ok.

It looks like it's only on one fin but also looks like larger spots of it on one side of the body as well. I haven't see any signs of ich yet on any of the fish in QT.

I do have one other tang not eating yet on another tank. He constantly stays in hiding.

Any ideas on something to spurn them on to eat?

revhtree · Mar 5, 2017

I also need to start Prazipro. Should I wait until the tang starts to eat?

Elder1945 · Mar 5, 2017

He doesn't look horrible wouldn't treating the issue with Prazipro and copper then worry about feeding be the right course of action? As a fish starving to death is a less of a concern then a infection/ich/velvet taking over?

revhtree · Mar 5, 2017

revhtree · Mar 5, 2017

Humblefish said:
@revhtree I'm sorta seeing something on the pectoral fin, but its not clear.

Nasos can be reluctant feeders in QT. @4FordFamily can help.

Replaced with a better video.

revhtree · Mar 5, 2017

Humblefish · Mar 5, 2017

revhtree said:
Any ideas on something to spurn them on to eat?

Have you tried soaking their food with garlic? As an appetite stimulant.

revhtree said:
I also need to start Prazipro. Should I wait until the tang starts to eat?

Prazi will just further suppress appetite, so I would hold off on that for now. Have you tried offering nori to the tangs? Sometimes it helps to rubberband it to a small rock (to get them interested in it) instead of hanging it from a clip.

revhtree · Mar 5, 2017

Elder1945 said:
He doesn't look horrible wouldn't treating the issue with Prazipro and copper then worry about feeding be the right course of action? As a fish starving to death is a less of a concern then a infection/ich/velvet taking over?

I thought I read somewhere from Humblefish I believe that if the fish are not eating then ou should suspend the treatment until they do. Not sure about that though.

revhtree · Mar 5, 2017

Humblefish said:
Have you tried soaking their food with garlic? As an appetite stimulant.

Prazi will just further suppress appetite, so I would hold off on that for now. Have you tried offering nori to the tangs? Sometimes it helps to rubberband it to a small rock (to get them interested in it) instead of hanging it on a clip.

I'll try that now.

Humblefish · Mar 5, 2017

@revhtree The white stuff on the fin looks like Lympho, but its strange to see that much of it on the body.

I think I would perform a FW dip to see if any of it dislodges or if flukes show up: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/freshwater-dip.248898/

@melypr1985 has a great video posted here showing you what flukes will look like in the water: https://www.reef2reef.com/ams/video-how-to-do-a-freshwater-dip.214/

revhtree · Mar 5, 2017

Now that I think about it he has been flashing or scratching at all. He seems pretty chill. I may try the dip tomorrow.

Humblefish · Mar 5, 2017

revhtree said:
Now that I think about it he has been flashing or scratching at all. He seems pretty chill. I may try the dip tomorrow.

It's probably just Lympho on the body as well, but a FW dip would confirm/rule out anything worm-like.

4FordFamily · Mar 5, 2017

I know no one wants to hear this but I've seen velvet materialize this way in the past, but you would know within a couple days at the latest.

To get feeding, live blackworms, live brine, red nori rubber handed to a rock. Soak food in garlic guard for taste and selcon for nutrition (frozen food). Try a little of everything, but I've rarely seen a healthy tang turn down live brine AND live blackworms -- all of that moving stimulates a natural feeding response.

Good luck rev, I have seen where that could be lymph but I worry that you would have noticed it growing more slowly. I certainly hope I am wrong.

Also, if I recall didn't you TTM this fish?

revhtree · Mar 5, 2017

4FordFamily said:
I know no one wants to hear this but I've seen velvet materialize this way in the past, but you would know within a couple days at the latest.

To get feeding, live blackworms, live brine, red nori rubber handed to a rock. Soak food in garlic guard for taste and selcon for nutrition (frozen food). Try a little of everything, but I've rarely seen a healthy tang turn down live brine AND live blackworms -- all of that moving stimulates a natural feeding response.

Good luck rev, I have seen where that could be lymph but I worry that you would have noticed it growing more slowly. I certainly hope I am wrong.

Also, if I recall didn't you TTM this fish?

No this is a brand new fish I just got on Thursday night from a fish order. So it's not something that grew rapidly. I'm pretty sure it was there.

4FordFamily · Mar 5, 2017

revhtree said:
No this is a brand new fish I just got on Thursday night from a fish order. So it's not something that grew rapidly. I'm pretty sure it was there.

Okay I should have read the full thread sorry!

I would watch carefully as said. Hopefully it's lymph as many times lymph materializes this way. Naso are strange as they get growths on their bodies perhaps lymph more frequently than other tangs -- also tend to discolor constantly with even light stress which leads to how noticeable it is.

Good luck, friend!