Slow stn and at a loss

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So for the last month and a half I have had slow stn death

On July 15th ish i tumbled my carbon to much and it turned my water black. This was two days before my vacation I did four ten gallon water changes prayed for the best and when I came back corals were fine and growing.

Until August 14th when all my montis died over night.

August 16th halide light blew out.
From here on out slow but surely my corals started stn ing. I haven't done much to try and stop them from dying. I turned off my p04 media and carbon and disconnected my air line from my skimmer and let things go

August 29th new halide bulb blew out again


Sent out a triton test on sept 6th and all looks fine to me.
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Yesterday I pulled out half of my dead coral skeletons o and my both my halide bulbs blew again.

I test alk every night at 20:10 so there hasn't been a swing of any kind that I saw unless it happened while I was on vacation
Calcium 470 everytime I check it
Magnesium around 1350 everytime I check it
Nitrates around 24
Phosphates around .03

Also my snails have stopped moving within the last two days and my coralline algea seems to be dying on everything that's plastic I don't know if it's because I just cleaned everything in my tank or what but my params are above every day at 20:10

Salinity 35 with a Hannah electronic and my refractometer that's calibrated with tlf

Rodi water had a tds of 0

I wanna say my lights have been the problem but I don't know in fact I have no idea what's wrong ESP since everything was growing with great pe with every param being the same and then the last month and a half they stn to death

The only thing that has changed is my light bulb problem and the carbon mishap

So is it possible that the carbon caused all this? @GoVols and @hybridazn have told me that they have seen it nuke a tank before

And if it was the carbon it could kill them a month after it happened? That's insane to me.

I don't know but I'm mad I lost almost every coral in my tank and there is no reason for it that I can find some will say hey ur nitrates are to high to my reply is the corals we're growing and had great pe while it was at 36 then when I tried to lower it is when the stn really took off. So to me nitrates won't kill corals I won't have the best color but won't kill them like my tank is now.

Any help would be great

I'm just at a loss And really mad


Justin
 
Wow, I'm sorry you are going through this.

Any idea why your bulbs are blowing so often? Do you run with GFCI's and a ground probe or could an electrical issue in the tank be causing it?
 
Wow, I'm sorry you are going through this.

Any idea why your bulbs are blowing so often? Do you run with GFCI's and a ground probe or could an electrical issue in the tank be causing it?
Brew,
Please help Justin.

It's truly over my head and Justin is my friend.

Freddie
 
I think its crap (can a say crap?) Bulbs I run 2 250 watt de reefbrite pendants with reefbrite ballast they are plugged into an apex
Yes my whole system is gfci and grounded but to me and my electrical background in cars and busses I would think that if it was a bad pendant or ballast it would be burning out the fuse in the ballast or apex or poping the gfci outlet
I do not have stay voltage in the tank with the grounding prope in or out I mean I do but nothing to be worried about like 1/4 volt and pretty sure if memory serves me correctly it's from my return pump as when I shut them off I have no volts

Right now I'm running straight xhos

I'm getting an ati 4 bulb sunpower sent to me from @locito277 (who is da man) to try out so depending on when I get this is when I will decide to order diffent bulbs or not. I'm not going to name the bulbs I use but I think I'm a try phonex bulbs next i it's going to be awhile before I get the t-5s

I love the metal halide look and for the first six months it grew the corals well and with no problems but since then man it's been problem after problem with the bulbs.
 
Mind blowing.

Have you tested ammonia?
I might keep gfo running if it's copper or heavy metals.

Clearly you've tested for voltage.
But even when mine was high I don't have losses. Exact opposite for me, the t5 was explosive growth.
Def did not lose inverts.


Crap.

Yea. I think you can say that.
 
Like I said I think crap (I can say crap) bulbs.

The bulbs I was using I had to special order to get as no one was carrying them
 
Mind blowing.

Have you tested ammonia?
I might keep gfo running if it's copper or heavy metals.

Clearly you've tested for voltage.
But even when mine was high I don't have losses. Exact opposite for me, the t5 was explosive growth.
Def did not lose inverts.


Crap.

Yea. I think you can say that.
Ammonia I say nope to as my 13 fish are fine
No I have not tested for it tho

Copper from where? Triton results say no heavy metals besides AL which was because I was running tritons al99
 
Ammonia I say nope to as my 13 fish are fine
No I have not tested for it tho

Copper from where? Triton results say no heavy metals besides AL which was because I was running tritons al99
Dunno. I hadn't looked close at the test yet.
Trying to brain storm the losses.
 
What I don't get if it's the carbon why did it take almost a month to crash the tank? I went away for two weeks and when I came back everything grew while I was gone.

Then the light blew and that was the side my montis were on so I thought hey that was the problem but thinking about it why would the light cause the problem?

I know De bulbs aren't protected from uv so is it possible that the bulbs are like uv'ing my corals to death? That's a far stretch to me but I got no other answers
No alk swings no temp swings ph steady enough not like I'm dropping into the 7.5 range in fact it's never lower then 7.9

No pest that I can find just don't understand
 
O and I also took every pump out cleaned and made sure no magnets were broken
Did the same with prope holders the atk and algea holders
Also cleaned all four power heads with the magnets all being good
Dragged a magnet in my sand bed and the sump and got nothing
 
I'll leave the chemical side of things to Randy, but I do have some questions. When you say the lamps 'blew' does that mean the lamps simply went out, or did they literally blow with the glass envelope cracking/disintegrating? Did any glass or lamp chemicals (scanadium, etc.) get into the aquarium? When you mention UV, DE lamps, especially those without intact glass envelopes and/or luminaire splash guards can produce some wicked UV wavelengths. Once, while on a trip, the outer glass envelope on a MH lamp exploded and naturally the UV dosage went way up. Some Acroporas I had were cooked (tissue missing) on the sides most exposed to the high UV. Hard to diagnose problems from afar, when *sometimes* a visual inspection would produce some leads. Making many changes at once makes it more difficult to ever know what happened.
 

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