Slow stn and at a loss

[justingraham]

I'll leave the chemical side of things to Randy, but I do have some questions. When you say the lamps 'blew' does that mean the lamps simply went out, or did they literally blow with the glass envelope cracking/disintegrating? Did any glass or lamp chemicals (scanadium, etc.) get into the aquarium? When you mention UV, DE lamps, especially those without intact glass envelopes and/or luminaire splash guards can produce some wicked UV wavelengths. Once, while on a trip, the outer glass envelope on a MH lamp exploded and naturally the UV dosage went way up. Some Acroporas I had were cooked (tissue missing) on the sides most exposed to the high UV. Hard to diagnose problems from afar, when *sometimes* a visual inspection would produce some leads. Making many changes at once makes it more difficult to ever know what happened.

I haven't made any changes really tho for this very reason

By blew

The first light I was home when this happened I saw that the right side looked brighter then the left I was on the couch and it just "died" went out to never come back on
The second light was out when I got home from work
Third and fourth light were a high pitch humming I found out it was the lights as every time I touched the pendant the humming would go away. I shut the lights off and then the would not come back on.

I never had metal halides before so to me the lights seem to be normal?

No glass ever got in the aquarium and no bulb actually exploded I have a glass shield between the bulb and the aquarium

 

[Dana Riddle]

The Triton data is hard for my old eyes to read, but it looks like scanadium was checked, so take that off the list.

 

[justingraham]

Also the third and fourth bulbs were very brite compared to usual before they stopped working

 

[2una]

I'd put my money there maybe being the issue

 

[Dana Riddle]

I like to take UV out of the equation (much easier with LEDs than the olden days when metal halides were the norm) so perhaps replace the glass splash guard with a UV-absorbing lens (Home Depot or Lowes has acrylic sheets.) I personally don't like the sound of metal halides' output going up or down.

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

I'd put my money there maybe being the issue

How does that make snails die?
Serious question.

 

[justingraham]

The Triton data is hard for my old eyes to read, but it looks like scanadium was checked, so take that off the list.

https://www.triton-lab.de/en/showroom/aquarium/auswertung-b/icp-oes/42424/

Does that work?

 

[justingraham]

I'd put my money there maybe being the issue

Thank u for ur oppinion

 

[GoVols]

Thank u for ur oppinion

+1

 

[2una]

How does that make snails die?
Serious question.

Think he said they just stopped moving not dead

 

[justingraham]

Think he said they just stopped moving not dead

Yes this is what I said they are stuck like can't just pull them off the rocks but not moving like someone hit pause on the snails

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

Think he said they just stopped moving not dead

Yup. That's right. How does that make them stop moving.

 

[2una]

Yup. That's right. How does that make them stop moving.

Was hitting on the coral issue, sorry i don't have a degree in snail psychology.
His GFO was unplugged close to a month before the icp & the icp having such low po4 that long after would perhaps point to that being MAYBE "the" or "part of " an issue he's got, if you got a better suggestion fire away

 

[justingraham]

I Shut off the media after the triton test

And any and all suggestions are welcome as I'm trying to figure this out

 

[bubbaque]

I meant pics of the tank with issues. Might help someone get the bottom of what's going on if something in the pics stands out to someone.

 

[justingraham]

I meant pics of the tank with issues. Might help someone get the bottom of what's going on if something in the pics stands out to someone.

Ok well I'm at work right now but if u give me what u guys wanna see I'll gladly take pictures of it and post them up
For those who don't know I have a 90 gallon with a 40 gallon sump in the next room my laundry room I dose triton I skim with a regal 170int have two return pumps going thru sea swirls I dose no amonios I feed lrs every day for dinner and pe mysis three times a day from my afs

my rodi unit I'm at 0 tds

My tank

And my sump room and pumps

For the most part it's still all looks like this but corals are dead

So any more photos u need let me know and I'll grab them when I get off work

 

[GoVols]

@2una @justingraham @saltyfilmfolks

No offence but I'm calling it a night.

All guys are my friends and you've all have been there for myself, with wonderful incite and guidance.

I hope that Randy will come on this thread in the morning and say if it's possible or not that a massive ROX dump could have or not have a delayed, long term reaction over time to a reef. I figure, he's about seen it all.

But.. It sure could be the MH lighting too.

Freddie

 

[bubbaque]

Snails not moving also makes me think magnesium being high but I see triton says it's in range.

 

[GoVols]

Snails not moving also makes me think magnesium being high but I see triton says it's in range.

Yeah, at about 1600 ppm.

 

[justingraham]

@2una and @justingraham

No offence but I'm calling it a night.

Both you guys are my friends and you've both have been there for myself, with wonderful incite and guidance.

I hope that Randy will come on this thread in the morning and say if it's possible or not that a massive ROX dump could have or not have a delayed, long term reaction over time to a reef. I figure, he's about seen it all.

But.. It sure could be the MH lighting too.

Freddie

Offense to what?
Thanks for all ur help and I agree with what tuna said that's why I shut off the po4 media after the triton test I'm waiting on my girl to get back to me about what it is right now. Also why I'm thanking him for his input I just want to get to the bottom of it before I kill any more corals