Small white bugs all over tank and fish.

[Flippers4pups]

Okay, that's a good thing.

 

[ngoodermuth]

I hate to be the pessimist here, but those first pictures look like velvet to me :/ Definitely do the fw dip to check for flukes, but I think this might be worth a read as well:
Velvet (Amyloodinium ocellatum)

https://www.reef2reef.com/index.php?threads/Velvet-(Amyloodinium-ocellatum).217570/

 

[Mariners]

Make sure u do 2 sets of praxipro treatments as the label states. Has the coral beauty flashed at all? Wasnt sure but her fins look a bit frayed from the 2nd pic. How long ago did u get her and was she qt before the display tank. If not, she may have had something but it didnt bother her till recently.

 

[SashimiTurtle]

The fish is very small and you can usually see thru the skin and the internal organs are visible most of the time. I haven't seen anything that would suggest internal parasites and she has been eating well. I wasn't home long to observe today, but I put food in the ring feeder thing and she came up earlier like she usually does. I didn't notice the spots then but I wasn't looking fire anything either. I did my inspection when I got home, then started this thread.

Looks like my heater has topped out at 76.5°F, they said 78° +- 2°... so the bucket is going in a sink of hot water to get temp up the last 3°.

 

[SashimiTurtle]

Make sure u do 2 sets of praxipro treatments as the label states. Has the coral beauty flashed at all? Wasnt sure but her fins look a bit frayed from the 2nd pic. How long ago did u get her and was she qt before the display tank. If not, she may have had something but it didnt bother her till recently.

I've had her about two months. Long story with this fish and the nano tank. She originally was in my 75g LPS tank. Female clown decided to try and eat her, took over half her tail and would have taken more if I didn't remove her from the tank. that's why the tail isn't completely healed yet. Set up the nano about 3 weeks ago and in the coral beauty went. No QT before, no disease in the other tank.

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

Mel did eye ball a bloat on the abdomen of that fish. She has a really good eye too
Dip an stabilize the fish and tank and go from there imo.

 

[SashimiTurtle]

Well, I finished the FW dip. It revealed nothing but a bunch of bubbles and a really floppy fish. I'm not sure is going to make it thru the night. Swimming sporadically in every direction but upright, I've had to remove it from the overflow twice now as it got stuck. It's lost almost all of the yellow color and the sides are white south faint orange stripes. Color looked better before dip and swimming pattern was normal, just sluggish.

 

[SashimiTurtle]

Well, after closer inspection there may be something in the dip. The white spots are substantially fewer in number but the color on the fish is too. The blue is especially splotchy. I'll have to keep an eye on her tonight, she's still swimming extremely sporadically and getting stuck to the overflow a lot.

 

[SashimiTurtle]

Well, I'm pretty sure my coral beauty just passed away. No effort to swim and no gill movement. Crazy how this fish looked healthy yesterday and was swimming vigorously.

 

[SashimiTurtle]

 

[SashimiTurtle]

 

[Ty Hamatake]

I'm really sorry to hear that. Sometimes these things happen fast, and by the time we notice it's already too late. @ngoodermuth, I know you suggested it might be velvet, does that last picture confirm it or is it still unclear?

EDIT: the picture of the fish stuck on the overflow.

 

[SashimiTurtle]

So, 76 days fallow for ich or velvet, correct?

 

[ngoodermuth]

So, 76 days fallow for ich or velvet, correct?

Yes, the picture of the fish stuck to the overflow does like a bit like velvet to me. And I do see the bloating Mel pointed out as well, so it could have been a combination.

Any fish that was with this one (including the clown who tried to eat it) should be monitored closely. 6 weeks fallow for velvet, but I would do the whole 76 days just in case it was a combination ich/velvet.

You mentioned you had the fish for two months...what was the last wet thing added to her tank (coral, CUC, chaeto)? It would be strange for velvet to surface after so long, even suppressed with copper at the LFS. But, still possible.

 

[Brew12]

Well, I'm pretty sure my coral beauty just passed away.

I'm sorry you lost your fish.

It would be strange for velvet to surface after so long, even suppressed with copper at the LFS. But, still possible.

I think Velvet makes perfect sense and is what I would consider the most likely cause. I see 2 possible explanations. It is possible that the fish in the original tank have an immunity to Velvet and that the CB lost it due to the aggression issues. Transferring it to a clean tank 3 weeks ago would reset the parasite reproduction making the 3 week window work.
The other possibility is that the Velvet came in on the coral added over the last 3 weeks. Either way, I think you nailed the diagnosis. Poor little guy just wasn't strong enough to fight it off long enough to treat.

 

[Humblefish]

^^ If no flukes showed up during the dip, then I think @ngoodermuth's velvet diagnosis is most likely correct.

You need to move with a sense of urgency to save the rest of your fish and this is the QT protocol I would use to do that: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/velvet-amyloodinium-ocellatum.217570/#post-2499437

 

[SashimiTurtle]

I went back and looked thru my build thread and the last thing I added was a few corals from the LFS on the 9th. If there is velvet in that tank, I feel sorry for the 13" 15+ year old blue hippo tang he just put in there. My other fish are all in the 75g and nothing has been added to it in months. 2 clowns, Caribbean blue tang, six line wrasse and a dwarf golden moray. nobody in that tank had been skein n any signs of distress. One thing I noticed but didn't pay any attention to, the coral beauty would hang out near the inlet of the nano powerhead in the 14g tank. I saw that hanging out near a powerhead was a symptom of velvet in your writeup @Humblefish. I figured it was just a resting spot because it's less turbulent there than the rest of the tank. I did take a picture of the clowns sleeping last night. They sleep vertically in the back corner of the aquarium. They are the only ones that sleep in the open. I'll try and get pictures of the others in a little while.

 

[SashimiTurtle]

Got a crew pictures of my tang. He's had lymphocytes since I got him and was super thin. He's put on a good bit of weight and has gotten rid of almost all the little nodules from the lymph except for one spot on his pectoral fin. No cure for lymph and other signs of disease.

My moray is immune to ich and velvet, but here he is anyway.

The six line is impossible to photograph 90% of the time. He's so dang fast and is in and out of rocks faster than I can get a picture, he also sleeps inside the rocks in a bubble nest so I can't catch him asleep either. He looks healthy, has bright colors and has never flashed in the few months I've had him.