Snails die but nothing else.

[revhtree Verified Admin]

You need to get bigger ones like this....kidding of course.

Ultra large Trochus snails (Trochus niloticus) by UK based Ocean Corals

 

[GHsaltie]

You need to get bigger ones like this....kidding of course.

Ultra large Trochus snails (Trochus niloticus) by UK based Ocean Corals

OP, do you have any dinoflagellates in your tank by any chance? Not likely to be your problem but apparently there is a type of Dinos that is toxic to snails if they touch it. I ended up with a bad case of it, lost all of my snails. It's not fun, that's for sure.

 

[Jarhead-CO]

OP, do you have any dinoflagellates in your tank by any chance? Not likely to be your problem but apparently there is a type of Dinos that is toxic to snails if they touch it. I ended up with a bad case of it, lost all of my snails. It's not fun, that's for sure.

I'm not sure if I do how would I know?

 

[Jarhead-CO]

You need to get bigger ones like this....kidding of course.

Ultra large Trochus snails (Trochus niloticus) by UK based Ocean Corals

Those are rediculous how large if a tank would you need.

 

[Jarhead-CO]

OP, do you have any dinoflagellates in your tank by any chance? Not likely to be your problem but apparently there is a type of Dinos that is toxic to snails if they touch it. I ended up with a bad case of it, lost all of my snails. It's not fun, that's for sure.

Could that be it?

 

[SashimiTurtle]

My tank is young like yours, around two months, and except for a few loses to hermits, I've had good luck with astrea, cerith and nassarius snails.

 

[Jarhead-CO]

My tank is young like yours, around two months, and except for a few loses to hermits, I've had good luck with astrea, cerith and nassarius snails.

Yeah imma look into those once I lose my snails since I'm sure it's going to happen.

 

[Lionfish Lair]

They could have taken a hit long before they got to you and you may never figure this out. If you keep having problems with different types of snails from the same source, try a different source. It doesn't necessarily have to be anything you did or anything to do with your tank.

 

[Jarhead-CO]

They could have taken a hit long before they got to you and you may never figure this out. If you keep having problems with different types of snails from the same source, try a different source. It doesn't necessarily have to be anything you did or anything to do with your tank.

Ok thanks alot all my other inverts are doing good so I'll try a different source for my next snails.

 

[Seyoz]

So my tank is young around 2 months but it's 29g with 2 clowns a strawberry blasset and a scooter blenny (I'm adding tisbe pods to feed because he is awesome) I know I'm slightly over what people would recommend for fish in this size tank but the boss put her foot down and wanted a pink fish. My cuc is 1 emerald crab 5 crimson leg hermits 3 margarita snails 1 turbo snail and 1 cleaner shrimp. I had 5 margarita snails but 2 died and a 3rd is falling off the glass non stop like the first 2 that died. My parameters are good.
Salinity 1.024
Ph 8.0
Nitrites/ammonia 0
Nitrates 10 ppm
Alkalinity is like 200
I forget the number but my calcium was good for FOWLR.
there is still algae all over the tank and rocks. My copepods are thriving after seeding so am I just starving the snails? Also no copper was ever used and everything I bought was brand new.

Quick question, do you leave extra food for clean up crew? Cuc are omnivores. And algae in tank not always covers them. Could be basset, attacking them.
They could fall upside down and can't turn over so fish or hermits eatting while vunerable.

Always flip over if upside down, pH lil low unless just turned light on minutes before water test.

Use a polyfilter in your filter changes color for aluminum, copper and household Windex, popperi, cigs, e cigs, oil, body oils, perfume....

 

[Jarhead-CO]

Quick question, do you leave extra food for clean up crew? Cuc are omnivores. And algae in tank not always covers them. Could be basset, attacking them.
They could fall upside down and can't turn over so fish or hermits eatting while vunerable.

Always flip over if upside down, pH lil low unless just turned light on minutes before water test.

Use a polyfilter in your filter changes color for aluminum, copper and household Windex, popperi, cigs, e cigs, oil, body oils, perfume....

Yes I leave extra food for the cuc my emerald crab grabbed a nice chunk of frozen food last night and my cleaner shrimp pushes the fish out of the way on the surface when I start feeding. I then leave some extra on the ground for the hermits. My house is smoke and e cig free I don't spray anything around my tank and it has a glass top which stays closed except for feeding. I always rinse my hands and arm before I place in tank and use RO water for my water changes.
I know my ph is a little low I'm using instant ocean sea buffer to slowly raise my ph and I always flip them back over when I see them.

 

[Seyoz]

If any of the chemicals listed, use a polyfilter. It changes color like a mood ring, I always keep mine by carbon in filter.
Keep checking on it, it does help f ammonia spike or low nitrates, not as only means of removing from.tank but... All qualities, if a friend that never owns a tank uses your perfume when not in room or whoever.....Even in hospitals germs get around without thinking from contact..What if you touched a dirty door knob and didn't know 10 other people touched it and didn't wash their hands after number 2 or 1...

 

[Maacc]

What is your magnesium level, out of curiosity? Depending on your salt brand, mag can be really high and at 1800 or so magnesium snails can stop moving and drop off the glass. It's likely a long shot and acclimation is more likely, just covering all the bases.
With your alk over 11 dkh, high magnesium is a possibility.

 

[fermentedhiker]

I haven't looked in awhile, but was curious what a vendor was saying about the Margaritas they were selling. I don't like this at all....

"Description: Though they are excellent algae eaters, the Margarita Snail lives a short life in most reef aquaria. Margarita snails are intertidal snails that live in the cooler waters of the Pacific coast (off Mexico and California). They will live for 6 months on average in warmer reefs."

So basically they're saying "Yeah, we know they're coldwater and your tank will likely kill them, but you'll get 6 months out of them before you have to come back for more!". That's just wrong. These are snails that live a loooooong time :-/ that's very sad of them. For shame.

I wouldn't go so far as to say that is there thinking/motive. Maybe it is, but temperate and subtropical reefs are getting more popular and Margaritas would be excellent choices in those setups. I'm thinking a blue spotted jawfish or catalina goby setup would be a great match for them. Admittedly instead of just saying they won't live long in a tropical reef they should say don't purchase them unless it's for a cooler setup.

 

[Jarhead-CO]

What is your magnesium level, out of curiosity? Depending on your salt brand, mag can be really high and at 1800 or so magnesium snails can stop moving and drop off the glass. It's likely a long shot and acclimation is more likely, just covering all the bases.
With your alk over 11 dkh, high magnesium is a possibility.

I'll have to get a mag test but it won't be for at least 3 days until I can get it. I'm using instant ocean salt not reef crystals.

 

[Whitelighting]

One thing I did was look up each type of snail. I found out that some of the most common snails for c.u.c CAN'T flip over or right them self . Before you see something kills and or eats them.

 

[C.bldwn]

I was having problem keeping snails alive for 8-10 months. I was finding pyramid snails on my turbos, but wasn't finding them on any of my trochus, ceriths, or nassarus snails but they seemed to still be dying. One night when I was looking in my tank after the lights went out I noticed one of my trochus snails flipping itself back and forth like they do when they flip over so I grabbed a flashlight and found a giant polyclad flatworm about 3-4" trying to cover it. I immediately grabbed a turkey Bastet and blew it off the rock and removed it. I tested some PraziPro on it and it killed it in minutes. So I ended up removing all my feather duster, coco worm, and Christmas tree worm rock and put them in quarantine and treated my entire SPS reef tank. I left the medicine in for about 2 hours, then did a 50% water change and threw carbon in, and did another 50% water change the next day, my reason for the water change was to reduce the impact on the worms in my sand bed. I returned all my ornamental worms after a week and had no noticeable negative effect on the worms in my sand bed. It's been over a year and I haven't seen a polyclad flatworm since and very rarely lost a snail anymore, pyramid snails are still there but not causing any major problems and I remove them manually when the snails are easily assessable.

 

[ECOKid]

Blue legs could be killing em. I use to have a tank where i only added blue legs and i could never keep snails, but my tank was mature. I chalked it up to them killing the snails.

 

[ChronicRage]

I don't acclimate inexpensive inverts. I just drop them right in.
I've never had a problem keeping them alive. I only add enough that the ecosystem can sustain. That 1 invert per gallon is B.S.

 

[buzzword]

Here is why you spend the extra money on Trochus snails. This is a Trochus snail spawning event in my tank, happens after nearly every water change. I started with 14 snails 2 years ago and at last glance I counted 50. Not including the babies in my sump.