So frustrating

DLHDesign · Oct 9, 2016

reeferfoxx said:
Seems high to me. Might not be. I'll look into it.

Caveat: I'm still new to this. Please check my suggestions against more knowledgeable folk and/or sources. ;-)

Lonny · Oct 9, 2016

Try moving the coral higher up first. Not to far at once, a few inches at a time. Give it a week per move. Your DKH is a little lower than most people run but it's still right there with natural sea water. Don't start chasing numbers! If you feel like raising your DKH do it slowly.

reeferfoxx · Oct 9, 2016

DLHDesign said:
Caveat: I'm still new to this. Please check my suggestions against more knowledgeable folk and/or sources. ;-)

Yeah. Gotta remember alk can impact ph and rapid changes can stress more.

reeferfoxx · Oct 9, 2016

Lonny said:
Try moving the coral higher up first. Not to far at once, a few inches at a time. Give it a week per move. Your DKH is a little lower than most people run but it's still right there with natural sea water. Don't start chasing numbers! If you feel like raising your DKH do it slowly.

I agree with this too. Since his po4 was .04ppm the organics will also lower ph and alk. I've always had better luck with higher alk with higher nutrients.

sil40sx · Oct 9, 2016

Can someone please verify if I got this right?

Mix 1 cup and 2 tablespoon of the product to a 1 gallon of water, then take 35.7ml from that mixture to add in my tank to increase 7.5 to 8.5dkh. But dose it within 48 hours time, because as per instructions, do not increase 0.5dkh per day?

reeferfoxx · Oct 9, 2016

sil40sx said:
Can someone please verify if I got this right?

Mix 1 cup and 2 tablespoon of the product to a 1 gallon of water, then take 35.7ml from that mixture to add in my tank to increase 7.5 to 8.5dkh. But dose it within 48 hours time, because as per instructions, do not increase 0.5dkh per day?

Did it ask the size of tank?

sil40sx · Oct 9, 2016

reeferfoxx said:
Did it ask the size of tank?

Yes. I am not just sure about the steps if I understood it correctly. LOL

Also, is this just one time deal since my Alk level stays between 7.44 - 7.50? Does it mean its going to stay 8.5 - 8.5ish too?

sil40sx · Oct 9, 2016

Thanks for the inputs. I'm going to bed now, and reply back again tomorrow.

reeferfoxx · Oct 9, 2016

sil40sx said:
Yes. I am not just sure about the steps if I understood it correctly. LOL

Also, is this just one time deal since my Alk level stays between 7.44 - 7.50? Does it mean its going to stay 8.5 - 8.5ish too?

1/4 in the morning. 1/4 in the evening for 2 days then monitor alk for adjustments. I'm also correcting myself for saying sodium bicarbonate from BRS won't affect pH as much as i'm making it would.

Lonny · Oct 9, 2016

You wanna bring your DKH up and that's fine but, if I'm understanding your post right, you haven't changed anything and the birds nest grew like a beast till now right? I'm urging you to try moving it a little higher up and in a little more flow before you start changing your parameters. Stability is everything

reeferfoxx · Oct 9, 2016

Lonny said:
You wanna bring your DKH up and that's fine but, if I'm understanding your post right, you haven't changed anything and the birds nest grew like a beast till now right? I'm urging you to try moving it a little higher up and in a little more flow before you start changing your parameters. Stability is everything

Depends on what alk was before?

The necrosis is there though. You cant reverse it so fragging would be best.

reeferfoxx · Oct 9, 2016

What brand of salt is being used?

My bad I see it.

reeferfoxx · Oct 9, 2016

sil40sx said:
Using RODI (0 TDS) and Red Sea Coral Pro for salt mix.

I think red sea pro is alk of 10 @ 1.026. Assuming you started the tank with rscp. Your 10% wc is most likely replenishing your alk. This is ok if you maintain alk and percentage of water changes. It would be critical for sps if you ignore alk in this manner. You need to decide where you would like alk. And stick with it.

You could raise the coral but i would raise a frag and not the coral. I think the damage is done. It wont be necessary to dip but use iodine.

sil40sx · Oct 9, 2016

reeferfoxx said:
1/4 in the morning. 1/4 in the evening for 2 days then monitor alk for adjustments. I'm also correcting myself for saying sodium bicarbonate from BRS won't affect pH as much as i'm making it would.

Oh I see. That makes sense. The slower, the better.

sil40sx · Oct 9, 2016

reeferfoxx said:
I think red sea pro is alk of 10 @ 1.026. Assuming you started the tank with rscp. Your 10% wc is most likely replenishing your alk. This is ok if you maintain alk and percentage of water changes. It would be critical for sps if you ignore alk in this manner. You need to decide where you would like alk. And stick with it.

You could raise the coral but i would raise a frag and not the coral. I think the damage is done. It wont be necessary to dip but use iodine.

Yea, I've been using same salt.

How's my daily swing though? 7.44 in the morning, and 7.50 at night? Is that considered bad for the coral?

Or I'm testing the wrong time?

sil40sx · Oct 9, 2016

reeferfoxx said:
Depends on what alk was before?

The necrosis is there though. You cant reverse it so fragging would be best.

Lonny said:
You wanna bring your DKH up and that's fine but, if I'm understanding your post right, you haven't changed anything and the birds nest grew like a beast till now right? I'm urging you to try moving it a little higher up and in a little more flow before you start changing your parameters. Stability is everything

I doubt I can frag/save it still. The tips looks bad as well this morning too

reeferfoxx · Oct 9, 2016

sil40sx said:
Yea, I've been using same salt.

How's my daily swing though? 7.44 in the morning, and 7.50 at night? Is that considered bad for the coral?

Or I'm testing the wrong time?

Well, your two most demanding coral aren't doing so hot. My guess the uptake of calcium carbonate is limited now. Coralline should uptake some though. Have you tested alk today?

sil40sx said:
I doubt I can frag/save it still. The tips looks bad as well this morning too

cmcoker · Oct 9, 2016

Have you tested you alkalinity before a water change and after? Wondering how low the alkalinity gets before water change raises it.. Is the 10am and 10pm readings the same every day?

Anirban · Oct 9, 2016

I went through your thread. alkalinity is at border line but I think people including me run system at low alkalinity (dkH 7-4-7.7). I have few suggestion based on my experience....

Your nutrient level is quite low and you are using LED. Although I can see its on sandbed still and I dont know at what intensity you are using your LED. I would suggest lowering it down or move it from direct light. Lower alkalinity with low nutrient and high light is not good for SPS.
Stop using the carbon and take GFO reactor offline to raise your nutrient a bit but not much. You can run the GFO for 12 hours and stop it for next 12. But dont run carbon as possibly it is stripping your water too much.
I would prefer you cut the dead part out and mount it back or it can grow algae on that part and stress it more.

sil40sx · Oct 9, 2016

reeferfoxx said:
Well, your two most demanding coral aren't doing so hot. My guess the uptake of calcium carbonate is limited now. Coralline should uptake some though. Have you tested alk today?

Not yet. Still doing some honey do's.