So what could Next New Neptune Systems product be?

New Jersey REEF · Nov 25, 2020

saf1 said:
Pick up a trident. It works amazing.

I want nitrates / phosphates testing too!...
I know what you going to say....
And people in hell want ice water?

User1 · Nov 25, 2020

ATL REEF said:
I want nitrates / phosphates testing too!...
I know what you going to say....
And people in hell want ice water?

Lol, no. I wasn't going to say that at all. I do think both of those are interesting tests. I think there is another product that will do that though. Or some of it. I really don't know. I'm biased as I own a trident but it does work, work well, and for a lazy reefer (me) it is a huge asset.

Nitrate and phosphate. I used to ignore those. I can see the interest now though as I started to dose TM AFR and saw a cyno out break. May be related. May not. Not blaming the product because I really love it. I love making the DIY version. And my corals have responded to it. However, that cyno. Enter nitrates. I'm lazy, dislike testing. The only tests I do will be the quick ones and ones that are repeatable. Hanna's phosphate is quick and easy. Nyos Nitrate is also quick. Few tests and I saw a pattern that my nitrates bottomed out.

So yes. I can see why people may want those especially if one starts to dose nitrates which I am currently doing.

Roosterjack · Nov 25, 2020

Probes that reliably work would be great.

Rogueaquariums · Nov 25, 2020

Hallowhead said:
Auto phosphate checker.. I want this so badly.

It could very well be a auto frozen food feeder. I love this idea

Agreed. Phosphate checker would be great!

Plandauesq · Nov 25, 2020

New to Trident. So far feel it’s not so great. Calc is constantly off, testing much lower than reality.

Flameback Pair · Nov 26, 2020

Any idea if these sky lights will come in one or two sizes? Like the Radions that give need to use multiple units. Maybe the small sky unit will cover a two foot long tank and a bigger sky will cover a three foot long tank?

Cabinetman · Nov 26, 2020

I’m another one who wants nitrate and phosphate testing.

VJV · Dec 1, 2020

+1 for NO3 and PO4 auto testing. Currently using the Trident (used GHL's KH Director for a few years but a couple of months switched the whole system to Neptune and very happy that I did) and always struggling with zero nitrates. Terence says that he does not see the use cases but I believe there are more use cases for these than for instance Magnesium for example.

EXAMPLES:

NO3 Testing uses:

Adjusting NO3 dosing in NO3 deficient systems (like a lot of us these days) - can be automated with DOS doser;
Adjusting feeding habits

PO4 Testing uses:

Adjust Lanthanum Chloride dosing (PhosphateE or other Lanthanum based aquarium products) to keep PO4 at a stable level - can be automated with DOS doser;
Know when to replace GFO
Adjust PO4 dosing - can be automated with DOS Doser

Cabinetman · Dec 1, 2020

VJV said:
+1 for NO3 and PO4 auto testing. Currently using the Trident (used GHL's KH Director for a few years but a couple of months switched the whole system to Neptune and very happy that I did) and always struggling with zero nitrates. Terence says that he does not see the use cases but I believe there are more use cases for these than for instance Magnesium for example.

EXAMPLES:

NO3 Testing uses:

Adjusting NO3 dosing in NO3 deficient systems (like a lot of us these days) - can be automated with DOS doser;

Adjusting feeding habits

PO4 Testing uses:

Adjust Lanthanum Chloride dosing (PhosphateE or other Lanthanum based aquarium products) to keep PO4 at a stable level - can be automated with DOS doser;

Know when to replace GFO

Adjust PO4 dosing - can be automated with DOS Doser

I totally agree with you. I can’t see them not wanting to offer this. Just doesn’t make sense.

Aquarist76 · Dec 2, 2020

Roosterjack said:
Probes that reliably work would be great.

Anything that reliably worked would be great. I've had problems with almost every add-on product I've bought from them. Main system + software work great. Everything else.....unreliable.

robbyg · Dec 4, 2020

A companion tester that did Nitrate and Phosphate should be there first target: The Trident could be modified to use three different reagents along with a new sensor. They make good money on reagent sales so why not add more products?
Most of the same physical Tridnet can’t parts be used cutting back on R&D.

ShepherdReefer · Dec 4, 2020

DarthSimon said:
Yeah phosphate and nitrate checker would be a different version of the Trident I suppose. They had stated that wasn’t in the cards right now.

That would be fantastic.

User1 · Dec 4, 2020

robbyg said:
A companion tester that did Nitrate and Phosphate should be there first target: The Trident could be modified to use three different reagents along with a new sensor. They make good money on reagent sales so why not add more products?
Most of the same physical Tridnet can’t parts be used cutting back on R&D.

I look at the new Hanna Nitrate checker and see why it wasn't done. At least first.

Billldg · Dec 4, 2020

Honestly, I would just like to see a dedicated battery back up for the Cor pumps.

User1 · Dec 4, 2020

Billldg said:
Honestly, I would just like to see a dedicated battery back up for the Cor pumps.

Wonder how many Cor's are in use. Solid pump honestly. I run 3.

Billldg · Dec 4, 2020

saf1 said:
Wonder how many Cor's are in use. Solid pump honestly. I run 3.

I currently run 1, but will install a 2nd on my upgrade. I really don't need a battery back up on my return pumps as I have them on my flow pumps, but it would be nice to have a battery back up that hooks up to my Apex and Cor and comes on every 30 min's or so to turn the water.

robbyg · Dec 4, 2020

saf1 said:
I look at the new Hanna Nitrate checker and see why it wasn't done. At least first.

Yes, it's discouraging but then again the Hanna is a Rube Goldberg inspired Nitrate testers. I would look at what API is using and see if the two reagents could be refined to give better results. Even better if one of them can be used as a catalyst for Phosphate testing.

User1 · Dec 4, 2020

robbyg said:
Yes, it's discouraging but then again the Hanna is a Rube Goldberg inspired Nitrate testers. I would look at what API is using and see if the two reagents could be refined to give better results. Even better if one of them can be used as a catalyst for Phosphate testing.

Actually you know who has a great kit is Nyos. Their nitrate kit is really easy to use and more or less accurate. I mean at least for me it has been. Consistent is another thing I like about it. 5 ml of water, 5 drops of this, shake rattle and roll, add measure of dry powder, and shake for 1 minute, wait 5, and your done.

I'm not sure what that dry powder is they are using nor do I really know much about chemistry so will pass to you smarter folks

Hope all is well with you and yours by the way.

robbyg · Dec 4, 2020

saf1 said:
Actually you know who has a great kit is Nyos. Their nitrate kit is really easy to use and more or less accurate. I mean at least for me it has been. Consistent is another thing I like about it. 5 ml of water, 5 drops of this, shake rattle and roll, add measure of dry powder, and shake for 1 minute, wait 5, and your done.

I'm not sure what that dry powder is they are using nor do I really know much about chemistry so will pass to you smarter folks Hope all is well with you and yours by the way.

If that powder can be bought as a liquid it would be perfect.

Tuffloud1 · Dec 8, 2020

I’m hoping for an NO3/PO4 tester.

The Trident has been one of the best purchases I’ve made since starting the hobby 7 years ago.

It has worked flawlessly for me over the last 9-10 months.