Specific Superglue brand

[ArashS1347]

Can confirm this is a very thin liquid. I used this for my scape with the aragonite sand and dry rock dust method.

Yeah, I may order it today.

Thank you

 

[ArashS1347]

I have only ever seen the method you are describing in freshwater tanks. . . and even then I think I only ever say MD Fish Tanks do it. . . not saying it wont work in salt, just that it does not seem to be as popular in salt for whatever reason. I think for really big stuff people do like a mortar/cement (aquarium specific) or a combination of glue and epoxy. Personally I use Gorilla Gel Super Glue to secure the rocks initially (only gluing the contact points), let that dry and apply another layer of glue, then apply a 2 part epoxy over the glue making sure to completely envelope the glue and the surrounding rock. If using purple epoxy I would use a piece of rubble to texture the epoxy while it is still pliable, if grey I would use a combination of gel and liquid superglue to cover the epoxy in sand. . .

For smaller scapes I usually skip the epoxy and just use superglue and sand.

Yes, Its for the fresh water.

That sounds like a good technique, I'll try it.

Thank you very much

 

[ArashS1347]

I would add that the Nyos 2 part makes a great bond if you want to go the putty route.

Thank you

 

[ChrisfromBrick]

i use this- from home depot no ill effects

 

[divewsharks]

Gel glue plus accelerant. Instantly sets.

 

[Rappa]

Gel glue plus accelerant. Instantly sets.

I used tons of this when building my scape. You can bond two rocks together in literally 10 seconds or less. I made some intricate structures using hundreds of tiny pieces of smashed marco rock. If I didn't use the accelerator, it would have taken weeks to build instead of a few of hours. It's great for filling gaps too. You can keep layering the glue and spraying the accelerator each time. And a tiny drop of accelerator goes a long way. You can use it to make any structure you can dream up, and it holds great... then use epoxy in key spots afterwards to ensure your structure is really strong.

Question to anyone who has used this... Has anyone used the accelerator for mounting corals? I know it's harmless after the glue hardens and accelerator dries. I'm wondering if it would have poisonous effects while the accelerant is still wet? For example, if I globbed some glue to a coral, plug, or a rock, put a drop of this on it, then go right into the tank to mount it, will it poison the water? It doesn't specify on the instructions or the bottle... THX

 

[Dburr1014]

I used tons of this when building my scape. You can bond two rocks together in literally 10 seconds or less. I made some intricate structures using hundreds of tiny pieces of smashed marco rock. If I didn't use the accelerator, it would have taken weeks to build instead of a few of hours. It's great for filling gaps too. You can keep layering the glue and spraying the accelerator each time. And a tiny drop of accelerator goes a long way. You can use it to make any structure you can dream up, and it holds great... then use epoxy in key spots afterwards to ensure your structure is really strong.

Question to anyone who has used this... Has anyone used the accelerator for mounting corals? I know it's harmless after the glue hardens and accelerator dries. I'm wondering if it would have poisonous effects while the accelerant is still wet? For example, if I globbed some glue to a coral, plug, or a rock, put a drop of this on it, then go right into the tank to mount it, will it poison the water? It doesn't specify on the instructions or the bottle... THX

I wouldn't use it. If I remember right, it's a chemical to speed up drying time, like acetone or isopropyl. They evaporate quickly. Don't use acetone on coral.

Fun fact, dip in water right after applying the glue and it immediately sets. Why? The lack of air sets it.

 

[divewsharks]

I used tons of this when building my scape. You can bond two rocks together in literally 10 seconds or less. I made some intricate structures using hundreds of tiny pieces of smashed marco rock. If I didn't use the accelerator, it would have taken weeks to build instead of a few of hours. It's great for filling gaps too. You can keep layering the glue and spraying the accelerator each time. And a tiny drop of accelerator goes a long way. You can use it to make any structure you can dream up, and it holds great... then use epoxy in key spots afterwards to ensure your structure is really strong.

Question to anyone who has used this... Has anyone used the accelerator for mounting corals? I know it's harmless after the glue hardens and accelerator dries. I'm wondering if it would have poisonous effects while the accelerant is still wet? For example, if I globbed some glue to a coral, plug, or a rock, put a drop of this on it, then go right into the tank to mount it, will it poison the water? It doesn't specify on the instructions or the bottle... THX

I would not use in direct contact with a coral. There is a chemical reaction.
Rock to rock, no issues. I have mounted a gorgonian that was attached to a small rock fragment to attached it to a bigger rock in the tank with no issues; again no contact directly with the coral.

 

[ArashS1347]

i use this- from home depot no ill effects

I see, Thank you very much

 

[ArashS1347]

Gel glue plus accelerant. Instantly sets.

I heard about it, I'll give it a try.

Thank you very much

 

[ArashS1347]

I used tons of this when building my scape. You can bond two rocks together in literally 10 seconds or less. I made some intricate structures using hundreds of tiny pieces of smashed marco rock. If I didn't use the accelerator, it would have taken weeks to build instead of a few of hours. It's great for filling gaps too. You can keep layering the glue and spraying the accelerator each time. And a tiny drop of accelerator goes a long way. You can use it to make any structure you can dream up, and it holds great... then use epoxy in key spots afterwards to ensure your structure is really strong.

Question to anyone who has used this... Has anyone used the accelerator for mounting corals? I know it's harmless after the glue hardens and accelerator dries. I'm wondering if it would have poisonous effects while the accelerant is still wet? For example, if I globbed some glue to a coral, plug, or a rock, put a drop of this on it, then go right into the tank to mount it, will it poison the water? It doesn't specify on the instructions or the bottle... THX

Thank you for the explanation.

 

[ArashS1347]

I wouldn't use it. If I remember right, it's a chemical to speed up drying time, like acetone or isopropyl. They evaporate quickly. Don't use acetone on coral.

Fun fact, dip in water right after applying the glue and it immediately sets. Why? The lack of air sets it.

That make scenes.

Thank you very much

 

[ArashS1347]

I would not use in direct contact with a coral. There is a chemical reaction.
Rock to rock, no issues. I have mounted a gorgonian that was attached to a small rock fragment to attached it to a bigger rock in the tank with no issues; again no contact directly with the coral.

Yes I want to use it to attach stones only.

Thank you very much

 

[SPS2020]

I'd suggest GlueMasters (what I used after watching Tidal Gardens video):

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/tidal-gardens-aquascape.783164/

 

[ArashS1347]

I'd suggest GlueMasters (what I used after watching Tidal Gardens video):

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/tidal-gardens-aquascape.783164/

Yeah I saw that video, I couldn't' find this specific one online

Thank you very much

 

[Jmp998]

I ordered directly from Gluemasters.com (thin super glue); it was cheaper than through Amazon etc and came within a few days. I used the thin glue and sand to assemble my rockwork and so far no issues. I found the accelerator just made the results more complicated and less consistent and ultimately did not use it for the final structure.

 

[SPS2020]

Yeah I saw that video, I couldn't' find this specific one online

Thank you very much

https://gluemasters.com/collections/16-ounce-bottle-variable-viscosity

The Thin is on sale.

 

[ArashS1347]

I ordered directly from Gluemasters.com (thin super glue); it was cheaper than through Amazon etc and came within a few days. I used the thin glue and sand to assemble my rockwork and so far no issues. I found the accelerator just made the results more complicated and less consistent and ultimately did not use it for the final structure.

Their thin version is different than what they showed in the video, I just sent a message and ask if this one is usable or not.

Yeah, I don't think using accelerator is necessary as well.

Thank you very much

 

[ArashS1347]

https://gluemasters.com/collections/16-ounce-bottle-variable-viscosity

The Thin is on sale.

Their thin version is different than what they showed in the video, I just sent a message and ask if this one is usable or not.

Thank you very much

 

[ArashS1347]

Cotton???
Don't use cotton. Use a arragonite sand and thin Super Glue, I get my super glue from Amazon.
This combo will glue your rocks together that you will not be able to get them apart without a chisel and a hammer.

I ordered it from Amazon.

Thanks for the suggestion.