State may limit coral harvests

[Alpha Aquaculture]

i think its sad how these corals are taken and sold for money but there is no info coming back about survival rates just prices. its starting to happen. whether the frag is 10 doesnt matter if its not healed and doesnt live. aquaculture means 'it will live' these days. i feel sad for all the wild corals its a tough road to the final tank and a lot of times they dont make it

 

[xmetalfan99]

If we theorize the fact we plant trees to replenish rainforests, the same should be said about replenishing coral colonies. Stop the greed and feed the need!!!!!! My take on it anyhow..

There are actually a few groups out there that frag wild corals and mariculture them until the reach a certain size. They then "replant" them back in to the reefs. This has been a very successful project that has brought the ecosystem "back" in areas where reefs have been lost or damaged.

Dude that petition was submitted back in 2009 - any idea where is stands or if it any changes are coming from it?

Yea, it is still an on going "project". I just read an updated article on it. Give me a chance to find it.

 

[nixer]

There are actually a few groups out there that frag wild corals and mariculture them until the reach a certain size. They then "replant" them back in to the reefs. This has been a very successful project that has brought the ecosystem "back" in areas where reefs have been lost or damaged.



Yea, it is still an on going "project". I just read an updated article on it. Give me a chance to find it.

its too bad F&W in FL dont care about all that.
they will just do like they do with every thing there.
make it illegal locally then complain because its gone and then go for a federal ban.

 

[GR808]

its too bad F&W in FL dont care about all that.
they will just do like they do with every thing there.
make it illegal locally then complain because its gone and then go for a federal ban.

I think that goes for about every state out there... I don't get it, why is the mentality set whereas they think they are saving a species by banning hunting or collecting? There will always be poachers or something being sold on the black market.
Dedicate any area as a sanctuary and propagate.

 

[PR_Reefers]

I support this 100%! some people don't have any consideration for our ecosystems, and would relentlessly tear it all up!

we need to support aquaculture and we can all do all part by propagating in our tanks also!!! anyways some brood stock is always needed but... you know what I mean!lol

 

[Akwarius]

I have a pipedream: if everyone made an effort to aquaculture then maybe the demand for wild stock would disappear.

 

[fsu1dolfan]

I have a pipedream: if everyone made an effort to aquaculture then maybe the demand for wild stock would disappear.

Doubt it would ever totally disappear...heck it would be a win for our hobby and the ecosystem if just 50% of the demand came from aquaculture!

 

[Akwarius]

Doubt it would ever totally disappear...heck it would be a win for our hobby and the ecosystem if just 50% of the demand came from aquaculture!

That's why it's a pipedream. It would take a major inflation event or stringent regulation to make aquaculture competitive.

 

[Akwarius]

Doubt it would ever totally disappear...heck it would be a win for our hobby and the ecosystem if just 50% of the demand came from aquaculture!

That's why it's a pipedream. It would take a major inflation event or stringent regulation to make aquaculture competitive.

 

[GR808]

That's one reason I love this hobby so much... I don't have to go to the ocean and take anything, I meet and befriend other hobbyist and trade or purchase items from their collection. The people I have met in the hobby is incredible...
Support aquaculture:bigsmile:

 

[xmetalfan99]

I have a pipedream: if everyone made an effort to aquaculture then maybe the demand for wild stock would disappear.

There is always going to be a demand for wild stock. Someone somewhere will want a wild piece because noone else is getting one,

 

[Akwarius]

There is always going to be a demand for wild stock. Someone somewhere will want a wild piece because noone else is getting one,

Not sure the logic there. Wild organisms are much less predictable in terms of color and survivability.

 

[xmetalfan99]

Not sure the logic there. Wild organisms are much less predictable in terms of color and survivability.

If the demand drops for them, collectors will stop collecting. Making less wild specimens available. Since they would in turn become "rare" or "hard to find", collectors that only want rare specimens will hunt down mainly wild specimens just to say they have them. This would then increase the demand again. It isn't always about color or predictability. Some people are in the hobby to enjoy it and some are in it as a status symbol.

 

[Akwarius]

It's not the collection of the occasional rare cherry pieces thats damaging the reefs. It's taking acro after acro to sustain the bottomless appetite of those people who want an "instant" reef tank full of mature colonies.

 

[johnanddawn]

there are a lot of big issues here
mariculture and wild stock collection in some locations are extreamly important to the locals who both benifit from it and in return protect the reef which is a good thing
but unfortunetly where there is money to be made some will have no regard for nature - these are the ones obviously need to be stopped
- getting the regulations to apply to the correct people is the problem. regulation is neccessary!

supporting aquaculture is always a good thing but some wild collection is not the issue. the reefs of the world can be sustainable if we all act responsibly and take great care of those critters we place in our tanks.

the impact of pollution, over fishing, invasive species, and other human activities though is of great concern and may lead to the downfall of oceans, estuaries, reefs, and even fresh water ecosystems. this is a problem that needs immediate attention but has no immediate answer

 

[Akwarius]

Well said. The unfortunate truth is that we will not fully understand the importance of these ecosystems until they are gone.

 

[fsu1dolfan]

there are a lot of big issues here
mariculture and wild stock collection in some locations are extreamly important to the locals who both benifit from it and in return protect the reef which is a good thing
but unfortunetly where there is money to be made some will have no regard for nature - these are the ones obviously need to be stopped
- getting the regulations to apply to the correct people is the problem. regulation is neccessary!

supporting aquaculture is always a good thing but some wild collection is not the issue. the reefs of the world can be sustainable if we all act responsibly and take great care of those critters we place in our tanks.

the impact of pollution, over fishing, invasive species, and other human activities though is of great concern and may lead to the downfall of oceans, estuaries, reefs, and even fresh water ecosystems. this is a problem that needs immediate attention but has no immediate answer

Very well said - no matter what it always comes down to dollars and cents!! Just hope things well get better before it is too late!

 

[Akwarius]

there are a lot of big issues here
mariculture and wild stock collection in some locations are extreamly important to the locals who both benifit from it and in return protect the reef which is a good thing
but unfortunetly where there is money to be made some will have no regard for nature - these are the ones obviously need to be stopped
- getting the regulations to apply to the correct people is the problem. regulation is neccessary!

supporting aquaculture is always a good thing but some wild collection is not the issue. the reefs of the world can be sustainable if we all act responsibly and take great care of those critters we place in our tanks.

the impact of pollution, over fishing, invasive species, and other human activities though is of great concern and may lead to the downfall of oceans, estuaries, reefs, and even fresh water ecosystems. this is a problem that needs immediate attention but has no immediate answer

Very very well said. Its refreshing to see other reefkeepers that have their hearts in the right place.

 

[dougers31]

Well said. The unfortunate truth is that we will not fully understand the importance of these ecosystems until they are gone.

Very very well said. Its refreshing to see other reefkeepers that have their hearts in the right place.

I know you guys(not trying to call out anyone in particular) are trying to rack up the points but both of these posts were in referrence to the same comment. Please keep posting like crazy but at the same time try to use good judgement

Sorry for the rant.

 

[Akwarius]

No apology needed. You are spot on with that observation and I, for one, appreciate your insightful contributions to this discussion.