Sump help

[OfficeReefer]

Ok here is how i have it. It’s quiet now and hold siphon for the last 30 minutes. Pumps running around 59% now ti keep up.

Is it just a fine balance between the gate valve and the dc controllable pump?

Yes, you'll need to get a balance between the two with your gate valve.

 

[FMF0331]

On your first post you stated
"I think im getting to a point where i want to throw in the towel."

This little problem you have now, is nothing. Wait until you experience algae, cyano, bugs, parameter swings etc ....
This hobby is no joke.

Not being a jerk or anything, I went through the same thing, along with many other hobbyist out there.
If you can't handle it now with just a pump issue, you might want to reconsider taking up reefing.
If you decide to stay, enjoy this crazy roller coaster ride of a hobby.
Good Luck .

 

[Dburr1014]

Nice
Now you have to figure out max water level in sump to avoid overflow flood from sump if/when pump goes off.
Turn off return pump and measure how much water falls to sump. Too much = flood . Use that measurement to determine max water level in sump. You should definitely have a small siphon break hole drill into return line slightly under water level of display.

As long as his overtly box is not leaking he wouldn't need a syphone break. That box is not that big. When water stops pumping in, there's hardly any water to make it to the sump.
EDIT; on the return yes, spoke to soon.

 

[doubleshot00]

On your first post you stated
"I think im getting to a point where i want to throw in the towel."

This little problem you have now, is nothing. Wait until you experience algae, cyano, bugs, parameter swings etc ....
This hobby is no joke.

Not being a jerk or anything, I went through the same thing, along with many other hobbyist out there.
If you can't handle it now with just a pump issue, you might want to reconsider taking up reefing.
If you decide to stay, enjoy this crazy roller coaster ride of a hobby.
Good Luck .

Lots of info out there how to get rid of algae, cyano and bugs. Not much on setting up a sump “correctly” as there are so many different ways of setting up one. Ive been on YT for hours trying to figure this thing out for weeks and setting it up.

I have a tank running just fine now so this was very discouraging when i set it up as everyones like “you need a sump”.

 

[doubleshot00]

As long as his overtly box is not leaking he wouldn't need a syphone break. That box is not that big. When water stops pumping in, there's hardly any water to make it to the sump.
EDIT; on the return yes, spoke to soon.

It doesn’t over flow. Ive cut the power at least 10x to make sure it doesn’t back siphon to much and when i turn it back on it starts pumping back normal.

Another question i have is filter socks. As you can see the silicone pipe is like 1/2” from the water level (i was just winging it here). How do you all have your primary pipe drain? Above the filter sock? Into the filter sock or below?

 

[Rmckoy]

It doesn’t over flow. Ive cut the power at least 10x to make sure it doesn’t back siphon to much and when i turn it back on it starts pumping back normal.

Another question i have is filter socks. As you can see the silicone pipe is like 1/2” from the water level (i was just winging it here). How do you all have your primary pipe drain? Above the filter sock? Into the filter sock or below?

In this picture I see what could be the biggest issue fighting against you .
You have decent sized lines going to the sump BUT. Later deduce them to what appears to be 1/2 the size .
Think of volume of water falling . Obvious something the same size being pushed with a pump will be a lot faster .
Remove the reducers and let the water fall directly into the sump at the largest size possible .

 

[theMeat]

You want the primary, and secondary for that matter, an inch or do under sump water level.
Op makes a good point that you have that last nipple barb onto tubing which will restrict flow. On your size tank it’s more than enough with a full siphon but you could use a slip elbow and slide a pvc pipe on that goes to sock. You wouldn’t necessarily need to glue it because that last fitting is over the sump, then you could slide it off as needed to change sock. A longer/deeper pipe on primary may help hold sock in place

 

[Syntax1235]

Not to be a jerk but the overfow can not keep up with the pump. The pump at 30% power is more than the overflow can keep up with. It starts to go over the secondary. So creating a downward pipe will create it silent but what about the pump being more powerful. These lines are the same size 1”.

My question ultimately is where is there a guide to get this done easily?

No worries .

1 inch drains can easily handle 1200gph with a full siphon. The solution to a pump too large is a ball valve on the return line to adjust the flow.

I am using a Sicce pump that pushes about 1000gph more than the Jebao.. Sicce silent 7 with 1 inch drains. I can let open my ball valve flow and my drains keep up just fine.

 

[Rmckoy]

No worries .

1 inch drains can easily handle 1200gph with a full siphon. The solution to a pump too large is a ball valve on the return line to adjust the flow.

I am using a Sicce pump that pushes about 1000gph more than the Jebao.. Sicce silent 7 with 1 inch drains. I can let open my ball valve flow and my drains keep up just fine.

So if a dc pump is running at only 30% restricting it further with a ball valve is the correct way ?

 

[Syntax1235]

So if a dc pump is running at only 30% restricting it further with a ball valve is the correct way ?

Of course not . Plumb it so a full siphon can be achieved and he can open the pump up. Please pm me if you have further questions. No need to clutter this thread.

 

[theMeat]

If you have a dc pump you can control flow and don’t need a valve on return line to control flow.

 

[doubleshot00]

If you have a dc pump you can control flow and don’t need a valve on return line to control flow.

I have the valve as I thought it would just be nice to have. Again hardly any info if its right or wrong. Its fully open on mine.

The tanks been running all day today without any issues. Hope this is how it will go when i tank transfer everything in September.

 

[Rmckoy]

Of course not . Plumb it so a full siphon can be achieved and he can open the pump up. Please pm me if you have further questions. No need to clutter this thread.

I don’t have questions …….
Was curious why someone would suggest restricting flow from a pump already restricted .

 

[theMeat]

I have the valve as I thought it would just be nice to have. Again hardly any info if its right or wrong. Its fully open on mine.

The tanks been running all day today without any issues. Hope this is how it will go when i tank transfer everything in September.

Sounds like you have it figured out