Switching from t5 to radion g5

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My tank has been up and running for over 5 years and is packed wall to wall with SPS Coral. I have been running t5's over my 60 in tank since the beginning and have no complaints other than Heat in the room which has required me to put a small air conditioning unit in to keep the temperature below 82°, midday. I am now thinking about switching over to radeons. Wondering what the effect on my tank will be and whether or not it is really worthwhile at this point. Any thoughts welcomed
 
I run an XR15 G5 (80%) with 2 24” led bars on a 2ft tank. Here is my apex temp-heater log for 24 hours. Home kept at 72-73f.

Basically, the lights slow down the temp drop, but does not increase the temp. The heater controlled by apex do not have to turn on during the photoperiod.

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I recently replaced all my systems halides with leds.
My systems were mostly acros
One system has 2 xr15gen5 blues.
They are strong lights but you will need several.
I would run 5 xr30's if it was my system and retire the t5's.
 
My tank has been up and running for over 5 years and is packed wall to wall with SPS Coral. I have been running t5's over my 60 in tank since the beginning and have no complaints other than Heat in the room which has required me to put a small air conditioning unit in to keep the temperature below 82°, midday. I am now thinking about switching over to radeons. Wondering what the effect on my tank will be and whether or not it is really worthwhile at this point. Any thoughts welcomed
If any thoughts are welcome, a negative to LEDs would be also welcomed. Your T5s offered a superb coverage and a small, yet great, beneficial amount of ultra violet emission to the corals. The coloration of the corals is great! The colony structure of the corals is also the best under T5s. IMHO it is defiitely not worth it to migrate to any LED, much less to Radion, which has a deficient coverage and will need T5s to start with.
 
If any thoughts are welcome, a negative to LEDs would be also welcomed. Your T5s offered a superb coverage and a small, yet great, beneficial amount of ultra violet emission to the corals. The coloration of the corals is great! The colony structure of the corals is also the best under T5s. IMHO it is defiitely not worth it to migrate to any LED, much less to Radion, which has a deficient coverage and will need T5s to start with.
Totaly disagree on the "definatly not worth radion" comment. 30+ year halide guy and I am 100% converted to leds on 4 tanks 3 total systems.
To many systems running them to even utter that comment anymore, sorry.

Growth from my 4 month old 80g and Radion xr15 blues is quite halide like from my experience.
Just took this and you know my old systems.
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Totaly disagree on the "definatly not worth radion" comment. 30+ year halide guy and I am 100% converted to leds on 4 tanks 3 total systems.
To many systems running them to even utter that comment anymore, sorry.

Growth from my 4 month old 80g and Radion xr15 blues is quite halide like from my experience.
Just took this and you know my old systems.
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Let's see if the op likes your results, specially the colors. He is the one that needs to choose. Would be great to see the results he gets under his T5s.
 
Totaly disagree on the "definatly not worth radion" comment. 30+ year halide guy and I am 100% converted to leds on 4 tanks 3 total systems.
To many systems running them to even utter that comment anymore, sorry.

Growth from my 4 month old 80g and Radion xr15 blues is quite halide like from my experience.
Just took this and you know my old systems.
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No offense meant, but those SPS don't look so good.
 
My 90g is 2 yrs old and I use 2 Radion XR30s G5s. Very happy with the growth, the way the corals look, and no heat.

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My 90g is 2 yrs old and I use 2 Radion XR30s G5s. Very happy with the growth, the way the corals look, and no heat.

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Have the Radions been on the whole time? Curious of your growth since adding, etc. Beautiful corals!
 
No offense meant, but those SPS don't look so good.
Really in what way?
Not a great pic but you can see the new growth. Color is comming back from taking down my 120 6 months ago. Anyway everything is healthy and growing.
 
My corals have decent color under radions with LED bar supplements (couldn’t hit desired par with XR15 alone).

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Really in what way?
Not a great pic but you can see the new growth. Color is comming back from taking down my 120 6 months ago. Anyway everything is healthy and growing.
From what I can see in the pic, there is a lot of brown on many of the pieces. That indicates not enough light, which after being under halides most of their life, is understandable. It also seems like you have some STN going on.

I hope it is the picture and I'm wrong. Lots of nice pieces and I wish you nothing but success.
 
My tank has been up and running for over 5 years and is packed wall to wall with SPS Coral. I have been running t5's over my 60 in tank since the beginning and have no complaints other than Heat in the room which has required me to put a small air conditioning unit in to keep the temperature below 82°, midday. I am now thinking about switching over to radeons. Wondering what the effect on my tank will be and whether or not it is really worthwhile at this point. Any thoughts welcomed
I'd keep the T5's. I ran Radion's for more than 10 years and I'm going back to T5/Halide. To much 'keeping up with the jonses' associated with the LEDs for me. That and LED is always trying to achieve T5/halide results and I never thought the LED looked better than when I was running halide/t5.
 
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No offense meant, but those SPS don't look so good.
Better pic for the non believers, lol. Just kidding. I run 2 16hds on this system with the 15s because I just could not get the color I wanted.
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Better pic for the non believers, lol. Just kidding. I run 2 16hds on this system with the 15s because I just could not get the color I wanted.
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Very weird colony formation, besides dull colors, IMHO.
It's a matter of taste, 90's reefer. Opinions are personal.
The most important thing is that you like those results.
Thanks for illustrating the thread.
 
My tank has been up and running for over 5 years and is packed wall to wall with SPS Coral. I have been running t5's over my 60 in tank since the beginning and have no complaints other than Heat in the room which has required me to put a small air conditioning unit in to keep the temperature below 82°, midday. I am now thinking about switching over to radeons. Wondering what the effect on my tank will be and whether or not it is really worthwhile at this point. Any thoughts welcomed
Pics of your tank, please.
 
Do you have some pics @A. grandis ? I've seen you're a big believer in MHs and although one of my tanks has SPS it's just a nano...if I upgrade in the future I'd consider MHs if there's a big enough difference
 
My tank has been up and running for over 5 years and is packed wall to wall with SPS Coral. I have been running t5's over my 60 in tank since the beginning and have no complaints other than Heat in the room which has required me to put a small air conditioning unit in to keep the temperature below 82°, midday. I am now thinking about switching over to radeons. Wondering what the effect on my tank will be and whether or not it is really worthwhile at this point. Any thoughts welcomed
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Tank size. I've seen dimensions from 60x 18x 30" deep to
60 x 48 x 12" deep for a 140.
Next you are running an 8 tube 60" t5 array?
480 total watts.

You seem to have contemplated this before and you used Radions in the past correct?
I know this sounds like the Spanish Inquisition but it helps in order to decide why.

Leds generate heat as well and the main way to save is if you can match output using less wattage.
Some say one can't. Some say you can with 1/2 the wattage or so.
Currently the best leds have efficiencies if almost 2x a t5 so for each watt you get 2x the photons.
Also means less heat generated for equal watts.
This doesn't even take delivery losses or gains into account.

If heat is your only reason I can't see it making a huge difference at least not compared to tubes.
Now a bit about the Spanish Inquisition part.
Take a shallow tank and your t5. Probably the easiest way to light it with an even spread
Take the 30" deep tank and a led with efficient optics and you will punch more par to the substrate level than a t5.

Secondly is more visual. Do you want more "depth" in your tank?
The flat even light of a t5 vs the shadow textures ( even with some of the better diffusers) of leds are 2 completely different looks.
You can argue all day of what is " better" but it boils down to a personal choice inc. accepting any err " warts".

Then there is which led? Buying one and handicapping it by dimming 30% of it ( just an example) to match what you had is costly, either from loss of par or loss of $'s because you need to buy more units to make up for it

This is getting too long but I think you get what I mean.
You did ask for any thoughts.

Oh what " color" tubes are you running?

I'll leave coloring corals and growth for others to argue about. Both have more than one factor anyways.

I would suggest you buy an led with a more " white" baseline if you aren't anxious for a drastic " makeover". Unless you are running a lot of actinic tubes.
Will help in the $/actual watt used.

Changing any living things environment has inherent risks.
Consider this a " hmm got to think about that" more than a " how to"

One last big warning.. going from t5 to led is probably visually more shocking than say mh to led.
Probably one of the reasons led would like to emulate t5's. Visual acceptance.
Also sneaky marketing. Probably more t5 only tanks out there than mh only left. ;)

From shimmer to shadows. Just basic physics.
Your best " consultants " will be those that actually switched over and succeeded. Lean on them.
Honestly and even from a non- coral guy as me if it's just heat I would be hard pressed to recommend switching BUT again someone with real experience is your best bet.

In theory you should decrease btus and a bit of cost. In practice it seems hit or miss.
 

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