The ultimate reef light! POLL!

What light is best?


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Why would you not run it?


Halides are just not energy efficient. To me they provide the best broad spectrum lighting which is especially good for shallow water sps. The question is what you felt was the best type of lighting. It just is not energy efficient enough anymore. I have no issues with it, if I was ok paying extra for extra energy I would run Halide..
 
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I have run everything from Halides 6,500k-20k and VHO/T5 Combo's T5/MH combo's VHO alone, T5 Alone and MH alone and really wasnt ready to jump on the LED band wagon from what I had seen posted the past 7-8 years or however they have been out. I have been reefing since 1998 and finally jumping in on the LED band wagon from my beloved tried and true 20k Radium's.

I can honestly say my Orphek's V3 are impressive.

I see no difference between the Orphek's and my halides except it takes a lot more time for stuff to color up but everything does just fine on a full SPS system in fact 6 months later stuff is still coloring.

I am very pleased with the Orphek's I just hope they don't break as their customer service in the USA is non existent in other words it sucks LOL.

I have no experience with any other LED brand.
 
lol CFLs

I suppose I shouldn't laugh because my first and only tank to date, a JBJ nanocube, had CFLs.

My vote is LED/T5 combo. I'm convinced this is an optimal setup for color, adjust ability, coverage, energy efficiency, etc.
 
I run all three.... Cost to outfit my tank with high end led was $2400 (4 radions). I run different "bulbs" at different times. MH for 4-6 hours when running for 12 hrs they last 12-18 months so I'll get three years. Same thing for T5s. LEDS who cares as they will last 10,000 hrs. So I have three years of no bulb change and the best of all three worlds. Setup is Giesmann Spectra running 2x400W Radiums, 4 ATI T5, and 26 3W luxeon leds (mostly RB on two pucks). Total system cost was less than $1500.
 
I agree with halide not being energy efficient. When compared to equivalent led it is surprising how close they actually preform. I installed solar and over sized to account for a much larger tank with halides and a chiller. Energy consumption is no longer a concern and it's great. Look into solar if your considering operating cost over coral health in lights. My tank is powered by the sun in a way.
 
I'm expecting that one day, this argument will be moot, and LED will have won the war. They have certainly won many of the battles lately... BUT. If you include initial costs in your comparison, T5's beat them hands down. There isn't a coral I know of that you can't grow under T5's, and you can light a large tank at a reasonable cost. Low end LED's just don't work like the high end ones do, and high end LED's initial cost for a 4, 5, or 6 foot tank are seriously over priced. I lit my new tank with an 8 bulb T5 unit... for about $350. If I'd have gone with, for instance, AI Hydra 52's, I'd have topped $1,800 in my initial lighting costs.

T5/LED hybrids are a stop-gap measure... for people who like the shimmer of LED's (or halides), and want the coral growth and coloration that the broad, even, diffuse light that T5's can produce. Eventually, somebody will figure out how to get that broad, diffuse light out of an LED, and nobody will want T5's anymore. They're not there yet, and the closest they've gotten so far is way too high priced for many of us to consider.

Right on.
 
I voted for T5/LED because I bit the bullet and bought an ATI 8-54W/3-75 W Powermodule for my new 180. It seems to be growing SPS like crazy. On my last 90G 4' tank I had 4 AI Sols and never felt I could get them dialed in.

A good example of how the right lighting depends on a specific situation is Terrence's (Neptune Systems) build where he had his sump in a large crawl space and his heaters couldn't keep up. I think he decided to go with MH to help with heating (although I never finished reading his long build thread).
 
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When giving opinions like this I think it is helpful to mention your experience. For me I have used all the options except MH/T5/LED trifecta . I have had a ton of reef aquariums over the years. My first tank was set up in 1989 with MH/VHO. I kept this tank with the same lighting until 2012. This remained my first choice until recently. I voted for LED only and this option should actually be more specific. My LED vote is for systems that have a good amount of different colored LEDs and are fully adjustable with intensities, sunrise, sunset, and moonlight. I purchased one of the first LED lights named Solaris by a company called PFO in Wa USA and have been following LED development ever since. I was confident this would be the lighting system of the future. I have been running two Aquaillumination Hydra 52s for several years on a 40x22x19 mixed reef with sps, lps, clams, zoanthids and anemones. IMO these type of LED systems have finally been developed to a level that exceeds all other types I have used. My only complaint is the color blending needs more work to get a solid uniform color with no hot spots. I have only used AI LED systems so maybe there is another manufacturer who has solved these issues, but I have not heard about any. IMO these are the pros and cons of the Hydra 52.

Pros:
  • Less cost if ran for enough years
  • More energy efficient
  • Adjustable color
  • Adjustable intensity
  • Sunrise/Sunset
  • Moonlight with phases
  • Acclimation feature
  • Weather feature
  • Wi Fi
  • Web interface
  • App
  • Low operating temp
  • Glitter lines
  • Small foot print
  • Good coverage
  • Modern look
  • Adjustable height with mounting system
Cons:
  • Hot spots
  • Color spots
From now on this will be my light of choice. Coral health color and growth is excellent. Couple this with the fact I can program in the color I like and it's a no brainer.
 
I recently rebuilt my 200 gallon system after a long hiatus. I already had the VHO ballast (icecap), reflectors and MH sockets. All I needed was to buy new ballasts for the MH. I seriously looked at switching to t5/led, but simply couldn't justify the cost at this point. The 2 ballasts cost me $170. Even with replacing bulbs every 10-12 months, the cost of quality LED on par with what I am running now is just not there yet. I can easily find 6' VHO bulbs online. The cost of replacement bulbs (2 x 250 14k MH (Hamilton) and 2 x 6' actinic VHO) is around $170. In the near future I will probably end up replacing the VHO with LED actinic strips because I really want the ramping up/down intensity you can get with LED, but that won't be for a little while.
 
I recently rebuilt my 200 gallon system after a long hiatus. I already had the VHO ballast (icecap), reflectors and MH sockets. All I needed was to buy new ballasts for the MH. I seriously looked at switching to t5/led, but simply couldn't justify the cost at this point. The 2 ballasts cost me $170. Even with replacing bulbs every 10-12 months, the cost of quality LED on par with what I am running now is just not there yet. I can easily find 6' VHO bulbs online. The cost of replacement bulbs (2 x 250 14k MH (Hamilton) and 2 x 6' actinic VHO) is around $170. In the near future I will probably end up replacing the VHO with LED actinic strips because I really want the ramping up/down intensity you can get with LED, but that won't be for a little while.


VERY WELL SAID. I've vacillated over the past few years going to LED's. I've been running MH/VHO's for over a decade now and can't seem to make the jump to LED's for two reasons. The first, I firmly believe that the industry (manufacturers) are still trying to figure out the right combination of reflectors and bulbs. I know I am stating the obvious with that statement. I just do not want to be an early adopter. Secondly, again I firmly believe, that LED's are grossly overpriced. To light my 180-gl tank would cost close to $2k to light it correctly with coverage, etc.

With my MH configuration I simply change the (3) $70 bulbs every 10-14 months and VHO's around 8-10 months. Until LED's come way down in price, I am sticking with MH's.

BTW: I've had my (3) M80 magnetic ballasts and my (3) Lumen reflectors for over 10-years. They have performed flawlessly with NO ISSUES or replacement parts. And the same goes for my (2) IceCap ballasts that run my VHO's. Talk about a Return on Investment. And they were not expensive either when purchased new. A fraction of today's LED's.

FWIW
 
I like the question/poll but you should also ask what experience people have with each! If you own a store/business and have used them all then your opinion would be more accurate/valuable than someone who has only used one of the choices and has little experience with the others to compare it to. Just saying...
 
I use only LEDs. Typically a higher base cost but over time you won't ever have to replace them and they barely put out heat. IMO LED comboed with MH or T5 looks the best and gets the best growth though
 

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