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Yes , the beginning of. Start with siphoning this up and turn off white lights or better yet all lights for 5 days
Add 1.5ml of liquid bacteria such as micro bacter 7 during the day per 10 gallons.
At night add 1ml of 3% hydrogen peroxide per 10 gallons to the dump
Cease adding coral food and nopox during this time which is fuel for Dino
Empty skimmer cup daily and clean filters daily
Say 6 you can slowly ramp up lighting over a few days
 
SlugSnorter said:
diatoms maybe. Params? Tank Age? That can help narrow it down. Also, your sand is pretty course, can things burrow into it and stir it?
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Tank is almost 3 months old. Yeah substrate is a bit course, it was recommended by LRS so I wouldnt lose a bunch during siphoning. Not sure if that really matters. My Nassarius snails burrow a little bit in it but not a ton.

Tuan’s Reef said:
I see some bubbles there so it could be dinos.

Whats your nitrate and phosphate levels at?

How old is the tank?
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Almost 3 months. Nitrates and Phos have been bottomed for about a month or so. I've been dosing NeoNos and Phos for about a week now. Trying to keep them up. Nitrates been hovering around 5ppm and Phos is still undetectable (going to increase that more and see if I can register.

They disappear at night so Im guessing its Dino's and not diatoms. Son of a biotch
 
Captain45 said:
Tank is almost 3 months old. Yeah substrate is a bit course, it was recommended by LRS so I wouldnt lose a bunch during siphoning. Not sure if that really matters. My Nassarius snails burrow a little bit in it but not a ton.



Almost 3 months. Nitrates and Phos have been bottomed for about a month or so. I've been dosing NeoNos and Phos for about a week now. Trying to keep them up. Nitrates been hovering around 5ppm and Phos is still undetectable (going to increase that more and see if I can register.

They disappear at night so Im guessing its Dino's and not diatoms. Son of a biotch
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If it disappears at night UV will likey help. What fish and cuc do you have? Any chance you can mix your sand with some finer stuff? loosing sand when vacuuming is really a non-issue unless you have crazy fine sand or are shoving your siphon right on it.
 
Is there a sump on this tank?

Easy trick to siphon the sandbed and not loose the sand on a tank with a sump.....

Start a siphon from the display to the sump, shove one end of your hose into the sock in your sump, then siphon away. Everything is caught in the sock.
 
Tuan’s Reef said:
UV can help with certain dinos type
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Im having a hard time finding a UV for a Fluval 13.5. Appears IM makes an Auqa 9w one that might work in the first chamber of a fluval 13.5 but they are out of stock everywhere, not sure if its even made anymore. If anyone has any UV recommendations that would work that would be awesome.
SlugSnorter said:
If it disappears at night UV will likey help. What fish and cuc do you have? Any chance you can mix your sand with some finer stuff? loosing sand when vacuuming is really a non-issue unless you have crazy fine sand or are shoving your siphon right on it.
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I have Two Clowns that are in a hospital tank currently for some white stringy poop/eating issues. My CUC is 2 Trochus, 1 Astrea, two blue hermits and 2 nassarius.

I would have to purchase some new live sand and mix it up. Not sure what that would do to bacterial levels of the current substrate though.
 
Captain45 said:
Im having a hard time finding a UV for a Fluval 13.5. Appears IM makes an Auqa 9w one that might work in the first chamber of a fluval 13.5 but they are out of stock everywhere, not sure if its even made anymore

I have Two Clowns that are in a hospital tank currently for some white stringy poop/eating issues. My CUC is 2 Trochus, 1 Astrea, two blue hermits and 2 nassarius.

I would have to purchase some new live sand and mix it up. Not sure what that would do to bacterial levels of the current substrate though.
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wouldn't harm it, also bagged sand is basically never live, just has some bac thrown in. Most bac is on the rocks and filter media. new sand isn't needed unless you go for a burrowing fish or invert


make sure to have some shells and food for your CUC, nas don't eat algae, and hermits are omnivores.

ive used this in my 15 gallon.
 
SlugSnorter said:
wouldn't harm it, also bagged sand is basically never live, just has some bac thrown in. Most bac is on the rocks and filter media. new sand isn't needed unless you go for a burrowing fish or invert


make sure to have some shells and food for your CUC, nas don't eat algae, and hermits are omnivores.

ive used this in my 15 gallon.
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Interesting did you set it up on your main return pump or did you just add another separate pump solely for uv?

This sucker is pricey though.
 
For such a small outbreak, sucking all affected sand out is the best option. You can put it back after washing with fresh water (once the tank stabilizes). Before you spend a lot of money on uv and other solutions, please buy a microscope and get an id.

I used this microscope. It will work just fine to id dinos (anything with 1000x magnification will do.
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jamesdomini4 said:
For such a small outbreak, sucking all affected sand out is the best option. You can put it back after washing with fresh water (once the tank stabilizes). Before you spend a lot of money on uv and other solutions, please buy a microscope and get an id.

I used this microscope. It will work just fine to id dinos (anything with 1000x magnification will do.
Science Kits for Kids Beginner Microscope with LED 100X 400X and 1200X-Include Sample Prepared Slides 12pc- Educational Toy Birthday Valentine's Day Gift
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I could give that a try. Any suggestions for sucking the sand out? its fairly course so a normal siphon vacuum doesnt remove the actually substrate. Simply Scoop it out?
 
Captain45 said:
I could give that a try. Any suggestions for sucking the sand out? its fairly course so a normal siphon vacuum doesnt remove the actually substrate. Simply Scoop it out?
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If you could suck out most of the dinos (so that you knock down the out break significantly), that will be fine.

I would not reuse the water. Replacing it with new water has some benefits. Just make sure to dose nitrates and phosphates to the new water.

A side note on phosphate dosing: it takes a lot of dosing to get any reading when you already have a dino outbreak.
 
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