These prices ... really?

I must say when we all entered this hobby it was pricey we all new this going in. But like said befor supply and demand runs all markets . As for me i am a bargain shopper will check as much as I can before I buy anything . Same goes for coral if it is to high I step away it is all up to us to build the price market for what we will pay
 
I must say when we all entered this hobby it was pricey we all new this going in. But like said befor supply and demand runs all markets . As for me i am a bargain shopper will check as much as I can before I buy anything . Same goes for coral if it is to high I step away it is all up to us to build the price market for what we will pay

True.

The same can be said about certain LFS around I live and I am sure where you all live. One store can have a plate coral for $350 but I can get the same one for $60 at another one. Like I mentioned before, Photoshop is the only thing that irritates me. As for the high prices, I will shop elsewhere and let others buy the expensive ones. You can't blame vendors for making a buck when people are buying them out :).
 
I think the same thing applies to anything "collectible" whether it's coral, baseball cards or comicbooks etc. It's only worth what someone is willing to pay.
 
For me it's like this. I can live without the highest priced corals. I can have a beautiful tank without the collectors pieces and can be very happy with it. If you can't then I feel sorry for you! LOL! Either way if you can you can and if you can't you can't! Am I mad because I can't afford some of them or don't want to pay that much? No. Do I get frustrated sometimes? Yes. Does it effect my hobby? NOPE!

That makes since right? :D
 
True.

The same can be said about certain LFS around I live and I am sure where you all live. One store can have a plate coral for $350 but I can get the same one for $60 at another one. Like I mentioned before, Photoshop is the only thing that irritates me. As for the high prices, I will shop elsewhere and let others buy the expensive ones. You can't blame vendors for making a buck when people are buying them out :).
. Agree
 
For me it's like this. I can live without the highest priced corals. I can have a beautiful tank without the collectors pieces and can be very happy with it. If you can't then I feel sorry for you! LOL! Either way if you can you can and if you can't you can't! Am I mad because I can't afford some of them or don't want to pay that much? No. Do I get frustrated sometimes? Yes. Does it effect my hobby? NOPE!

That makes since right? :D
lol I get frustrated sometimes will not lie. But my pocket book runs my hobby lol
 
For me it's like this. I can live without the highest priced corals. I can have a beautiful tank without the collectors pieces and can be very happy with it. If you can't then I feel sorry for you! LOL! Either way if you can you can and if you can't you can't! Am I mad because I can't afford some of them or don't want to pay that much? No. Do I get frustrated sometimes? Yes. Does it effect my hobby? NOPE!

That makes since right? :D


Agree with this 100% sometimes is very frustrating and i just want to go off on a crazy tangent in some of these posts but i really love the r2r site so it never happens not trying to get banned :xd:
 
Its funny to because 6-12 months down the road you are going to see all these crazy high priced corals selling for their appropriate price. All you have to do is wait it out....patience......

Yup. I remember back in like 2007 or so when rainbow, aussie acans were just starting to show up and they were selling for ridiculous prices (several hundred for an eye or two). Now these exact same corals are very easy to find for a tiny fraction of that price. Same thing with purple hornet zoas and many more. I remember when frags of JF My Miami were going for like $1200. Now its so readily available you can get a multi-eyed frag for $100 or less. But, these vendors have to make a buck somehow and they keep on finding new, nice corals.
 
Yup. I remember back in like 2007 or so when rainbow, aussie acans were just starting to show up and they were selling for ridiculous prices (several hundred for an eye or two). Now these exact same corals are very easy to find for a tiny fraction of that price. Same thing with purple hornet zoas and many more. I remember when frags of JF My Miami were going for like $1200. Now its so readily available you can get a multi-eyed frag for $100 or less. But, these vendors have to make a buck somehow and they keep on finding new, nice corals.

I remember when black hornets came out. Ouch.
 
Selling "Fotoe Shot limited Only 1 in the world 1/2 inch frag acro" for $10,000.00 and your left arm.
I enjoy reefing, but corals are EXPENSIVE!!!!
I buy corals based on colors and (GF's approval).
 
Just a little perspective...

Back in the 1990's I was a partner in a fish store.

We used to get a fax from a Philippines Distributor.

one line would say Clam.

the next line would say Colored Clam.

The "Colored Clams" were $5.

We used to bring in 2-3 boxes of Colored Clams at a time.

With shipping included we landed the clams around $10-12

Well... the Philippine "Colored Clams" were all T. Crocea, 3-4"

About 1/3 were your basic blue or bluish green coloration. About 1/3 were a bit nicer and a full 1/3 were what people would call "ultras".

Back in the day... the collectors/distributors didn't modify pricing based on the quality of what they were sending you.

Today... you will get an email from an Australian exporter/collector with a picture of a 4" Chalice colony for $3000. Yes it's nice and it has a shot at being the next "big thing" or LE. But it's $3000.

The overseas collectors are "onto us" over here in the USA. They are pricing in accordance with what they feel WE will pay for it.

That is the big reason why nice corals cost big $$.
 
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I have to agree with Rev quite a bit. My concern is more for individual hobbyists, from a learning standpoint. My goal, as a reef consultant, is to make people educated, successful aquarists. After we finish up, my hope is that they only need to call me in an emergency, if one arises. While I like to make a bit of money off my work, I always want people to learn about reef aquariums and natural coral reefs, and understand how the science behind both is inter-related, without sacrificing their reef keeping budget to pay me. This transitions them into the realm of a successful aquarist, that can make educated decisions. This hobby is expensive, and often I work with reefers who are trying to budget their aquarium. Budgeting a reef tank is tough. There are corners that can be cut, costs that can be saved, and their are iron clad principles, that if not followed and maintained, will result in failure. New hobbyists are on fire. They want ever colorful animal they look at. They are far more likely to blow $ 500 on a frag because it says, "Thor's Hammer Ultra Rare Chalice" at this stage in reefing, than they are to perhaps understand why they need a powerful protein skimmer. I have personally had clients stumble upon a coral sellers site, and blow this kind of money, then call me and say, "Well I can't afford that skimmer, or that reactor." Now they have a very, very overpriced coral frag in an unsuitable environment, that will die. In this regard, if a vendor is getting a coral colony for a reasonable price, then giving the frags outrageous names and making a huge profit, that is a dis-service to the hobby. A lot of the experienced reefers here know those frags aren't worth near what they are being sold for. A lot of newbies think they have gotten something amazing and rare, at the sacrifice of a crucial piece of reef keeping equipment.

It's for this reason that I give client's, who are new at the hobby, a couple of free frags. I have plenty of corals, I can spare a few and it gives them something nice and colorful to add to their tank, when it's ready. It also lets them experience the joy and challenge of keeping coral healthy, without having to sacrifice their reef budget to do so. IMHO, what these vendors are doing, is only hurting the hobby, and making something already expensive, out of reach for so many.
 
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Supply and demand. Don't buy and the prices will drop. I'm doing my part. If the has some ones initials in front of a crazy name and the price tag is greater than $100 I surely don't need it. lol
 
Jon, thanks for the interesting reply. I have a good friend that owns a saltwater specialty store, close to my home. He sells a limited number of corals, and was telling me the same thing, you just commented on. He also claimed, I don't know if this is true, that all the training and operation costs, that goes into sustainable harvesting programs, as well as working around growing collection regulations, is being reflected in coral cost. Have you experienced that?
 
Jon, thanks for the interesting reply. I have a good friend that owns a saltwater specialty store, close to my home. He sells a limited number of corals, and was telling me the same thing, you just commented on. He also claimed, I don't know if this is true, that all the training and operation costs, that goes into sustainable harvesting programs, as well as working around growing collection regulations, is being reflected in coral cost. Have you experienced that?

Yes, all livestock from sustainable collectors is priced higher, but for the most part 100% worth it.

I'm a BIG FAN of ORA. Nowadays you can fill a reef tank with nary a molecule from the ocean...
 
For the record, I have never bought a specialty coral with some crazy name, or a single super high priced frag. I have been given some beautiful corals, that would rival the most beautiful, un-photo-shopped pictures I have seen. They have grown into colonies and to spread Bob Marley's "one love" - when I frag them, I pass them on, for free, to fellow reefers.
 
Did I hear free lol the club here does a cdp program . They have frags over 800 they swap in between them and help new reefers get off the ground . There moto is no one should pay over 50 bucks for a coral lol
 

IF YOU HAD TO TAKE A REEFING EXAM, WOULD YOU PASS?

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    Votes: 26 37.1%
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