This is a real emergency please help with raccoon!!

[Calebb8133]

Could he do better in a fish breeder in the main tank

 

[Brew12]

Could he do better in a fish breeder in the main tank

I would keep him in QT so you can treat with antibiotics more effectively.

 

[Calebb8133]

He isn't doing anything with the pea. He is laying down and the pea is literally right in front of his nose and he isn't doing anything

 

[Calebb8133]

I would keep him in QT so you can treat with antibiotics more effectively.

Ok

 

[Calebb8133]

I have looked around in the past for metroplex and no place around me has it and I live in Tampa there r like 10 fish stores here and no one has itb

 

[Calebb8133]

Right now I have parashield in the tank as treatment it's just what I have for medicine

 

[Brew12]

I have looked around in the past for metroplex and no place around me has it and I live in Tampa there r like 10 fish stores here and no one has itb

You can get both from Amazon. They sell a package with the 2 antibiotics and the Focus to bind it to food. Very convenient.
https://www.amazon.com/Seachem-Trea...&qid=1545066083&sr=8-2&keywords=seachem+focus

 

[madweazl]

I think the listless swimming is probably related to the fish dying vs a swim bladder issue. I'd recently red something regarding a dark spot on CBBs being linked to an internal injury; is that common amongst other butterfly fish?

 

[Calebb8133]

You can get both from Amazon. They sell a package with the 2 antibiotics and the Focus to bind it to food. Very convenient.
https://www.amazon.com/Seachem-Trea...&qid=1545066083&sr=8-2&keywords=seachem+focus

While I appreciate this and will order it if he isn't eating what can I do about that

 

[Brew12]

While I appreciate this and will order it if he isn't eating what can I do about that

The Metroplex and Kanaplex can be dosed directly into the water. I would try and provide them with both methods.

 

[Calebb8133]

I think the listless swimming is probably related to the fish dying vs a swim bladder issue. I'd recently red something regarding a dark spot on CBBs being linked to an internal injury; is that common amongst other butterfly fish?

What was the cause of the internal injury

 

[Calebb8133]

The Metroplex and Kanaplex can be dosed directly into the water. I would try and provide them with both methods.

Ok

 

[Calebb8133]

The Metroplex and Kanaplex can be dosed directly into the water. I would try and provide them with both methods.

How fast does stuff like that take to start working

 

[Brew12]

How fast does stuff like that take to start working

It doesn't work as fast as we would like it to. I've never seen any improvement within the first 24 hours for any infection I've dealt with. I can't give you an exact time because it will vary with the fish and the type of bacterial infection you may be dealing with. Improvement in the 3 to 4 day range is pretty common. If they don't show improvement by day 6 my experience is that they are not likely to survive.

As an FYI, Fish heal very quickly. The danger is almost always with an infection and not the original injury. The quicker we can get antibiotics into the water the better imo. I keep these medications on the shelf at my house along with a few other common ones so I can start medicating immediately.

 

[Calebb8133]

It doesn't work as fast as we would like it to. I've never seen any improvement within the first 24 hours for any infection I've dealt with. I can't give you an exact time because it will vary with the fish and the type of bacterial infection you may be dealing with. Improvement in the 3 to 4 day range is pretty common. If they don't show improvement by day 6 my experience is that they are not likely to survive.

As an FYI, Fish heal very quickly. The danger is almost always with an infection and not the original injury. The quicker we can get antibiotics into the water the better imo. I keep these medications on the shelf at my house along with a few other common ones so I can start medicating immediately.

Well I hate to say it but I am thinking there isn't much hope because if he does survive for 2 to 3 days the medication won't start working for another 3-4 days

 

[Calebb8133]

I am gonna order the medication though because sounds like it's good

 

[Brew12]

Well I hate to say it but I am thinking there isn't much hope because if he does survive for 2 to 3 days the medication won't start working for another 3-4 days

I've seen fish hang on for weeks without being treated. I was only saying that if the medication doesn't start to work after 6 days that further improvement is unlikely.

If you can get and keep him eating, there is always a chance.

 

[NewGoby]

@Brew12 that's a lot of ribbons, impressive.

@Caleb Broberg on topic though, about the pea's, I've read similair things about pea's helping, however they need to be slightly heated up & the pea has to be skinned, so that it's soft enough.

 

[Calebb8133]

@Brew12 that's a lot of ribbons, impressive.

@Caleb Broberg on topic though, about the pea's, I've read similair things about pea's helping, however they need to be slightly heated up & the pea has to be skinned, so that it's soft enough.

Yes I did heat it

 

[Brew12]

@Brew12 that's a lot of ribbons, impressive.

Thanks, but don't read to much into that. It means I'm active, nothing else. There is little correlation between the number of banners and reefing knowledge. Some of our most knowledgeable and experienced members don't have a single banner.

 

[Calebb8133]

He died about an hour ago thanks for all your help. Is whatever it was he had contagious?? I have had a number of other fish die the same way in the past should I QT all fish?