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A Ctenochaetus tang should do OK in a 4’ 75 gallon. A yellow tang might work but it is right at the edge. I have an 8’ 300 gallon and my tangs, even the small ones use the whole tank.
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okay, yeah I figured yellows are a tad big. I will say these fish are not about to live in this tank forever. long term goal is to move up to a bigger tank a few years in the future and my fish will just move over and this tank will either become a side display for smaller fish or be a QT. that said, the best laid plans of mice and men and all, so I don't want to buy fish that won't be good in this tank when their older assuming I will buy a bigger tank in time. I noticed you commenting on my stocking thread, any thoughts on adding a tomini tang to my current stock, maybe increasing the CUCs a little?
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also my plan is when I move to the bigger tank adding any larger angels/tangs at the same time I move over the CBA and Tang I want to add to this tank so they will all be in new territory at the same time, and I'm hoping that might mitigate any territoriality of aggression. if anyone has thoughts on that Idea feel free to chime in.
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It's weird, for some reason the flame tang is the only tang that our Lt tang seems to not like. It's not at the level of bullying or anything like that but he tolerates less from that flame tang than any other fish (tang or other) in our tank. We were warned to watch for that too. No idea why the Lt seems to not like it.
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hold on, Feed more the day I add the tang? leave the lights off? I thought general practice was to skip feedings for 24 hours after adding a new fish
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The day you add the fish you can leave the lights off. Then feed a little heavier for the next few days. Realistically you probably wouldn’t have to do either. The coral beauty might chase the tang for a day but after that it will calm down
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Honestly, Every fish I added after the coral beauty got chased for about 5 minutes, then he kind of just gave up. I'm worried though about the tang deciding in that first 5 minutes of chasing that he's not going to tolerate that and slashing my angel. If the angel survives the first maybe 5-10 minutes in the tank, I see this going swimmingly. If the tang has a low tolerance for chasing though is where I think problems might arise. I think I will at least leave the lights off for the first few hours to keep the chasing to a minimum, in fact, might just pick him up after the lights go out for the night (my LFS stays open really late) and introduce him in the dark, let them have the overnight and feed heavier the next day
Edit: to be clear, I do not worry about the tang getting bullied by the CBA at all, because I know the tang will be the same size or larger, and is probably faster (not to mention those scalpels means if they get in a fight its going to be pretty one sided), my CBA is really slow. I'm worried that the tang may not tolerate aggression of any kind and decide to more or less "respond to small arms fire with an artillery strike" and take out my CBA.
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The tang killing your coral beauty is pretty unlikely. It’s a new fish in a new environment. Odds are it will be pretty submissive in the beginning. That’s not to say it won’t become the dominant fish in the future but even then it’s pretty unlikely it will harm anything
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yeah, that seems to be what people have been saying is at least as far as tomini go they're more likely to be submissive at first. but hey, that kind of learning is what these threads are for right? XD
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Exactly! I learned a lot using the trial by fire method as well as listening to other people’s personal experiences. I wasn’t afraid to try different things and sometimes it worked sometimes it didn’t.
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Update: as it would turn out, my store already had a tomini tang in stock for someone else who failed to get him or pay, so now I have a tomini tang. he seems to be mostly oblivious to the other fish in the tank, and surprisingly even the CBA gave him a wide berth. hope he continues to mind his business and everyone else mind theirs XD he is so pretty, the pictures do not do him justice! his name is Aragorn I think (if that changes I will be sure to update).
PS: can anyone think of a reason that ALL my fish prefer this side of the tank?? there is more cyano on the other side as well as the filter intake and output, on the side they prefer is the heater (but thermometer on the other side shows the same temp) and a powerhead, and there is a second powerhead on the back of the tank in the middle.
PS: can anyone think of a reason that ALL my fish prefer this side of the tank?? there is more cyano on the other side as well as the filter intake and output, on the side they prefer is the heater (but thermometer on the other side shows the same temp) and a powerhead, and there is a second powerhead on the back of the tank in the middle.
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Our Tomini is named Tom like Tom Haverford from Parks and Rec lol.
No idea about why they prefer one side of the tank over others. I've learned that fish seem to have far more unique personalities than people give them credit for. Case in point, our Lt tang who is OCD about cleaning sand, shells, etc out from his hiding spot.
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I love the personality in my saltwater aquarium. In freshwater, my fish kind of just swim about. in my saltwater tank, I've got a Royal Gramma who is determined to have a glass bottom cave and will stop at nothing to painstakingly remove every grain of sand by mouth, A coral beauty angel who wants to know why this mound of sand keeps moving out of the cave and sees to it that every grain gets returned (like, this is some serious 4th circle stuff), a skittish yellow tail blue damsel who wants no part in this, and two clownfish who just want to snuggle by the heater. it really is something else. I can't wait to see how the Tang fits into the community. so far he seems to have befriended the coral beauty, so they've been swimming about side by side all day
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maybe, idk. I've tried moving rocks and powerheads about but they seem to really prefer that one side. that one side is actually blocked from view of foot traffic where the other side isn't, so I've draped a towel on the other side so now both sides are blocked, in case its just that they prefer the side with less motion? idk, worth a shot
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follow up, after discussion with my wife we have decided that while The coral beauty angelfish had been tentatively named Gandalf, (because Gandalf was a maiar, which is essentially an angel), we felt the coral beauty named Aragorn and the large grey tang being Gandalf the Grey was more appropriate XD. This naming scheme developed after I yelled "Bilbo Baggins! I am not trying to harm you!" while frustratedly trying to net our first clown out of the acclimation tank I use into the display tank. idk how much people care about this kind of stuff, but I find it amusing so thought I'd share
Any of the tangs will not bother the CBA. Maybe the other way initially. I would not worry about it. For young small tangs, they often have small puncture wound when fighting. Nothing too serious. I would not worry about it.
75 gal, you can keep a small tang. Maybe Yellow and a Ctenochaetus (other than Chevron tang). Tomini tang would be best.
I have a Tomini tang in my 65 gal and he will be just fine with three Flameback Angel fish.
75 gal, you can keep a small tang. Maybe Yellow and a Ctenochaetus (other than Chevron tang). Tomini tang would be best.
I have a Tomini tang in my 65 gal and he will be just fine with three Flameback Angel fish.
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yeah, that seemed to be the consensus and I am happy because that seems to be the way it went. actually better than I expected, the angel and tang have been best buddies all day. so glad it worked out, it was definitely an awesome addition!
