Trace and amino supplementation between water changes?

ReefGeezer · Dec 23, 2009

+1 for feeding the fish more quality food instead of dumping amino's into the tank. There are a lot of fish in that tank. Amino acids might be overkill. Even with ozone, I can't imagine there is not enough available proteins in the water for the corals unless the ULN system is established by limiting feeding.

TonyB · Dec 23, 2009

ReefGeezer said:
unless the ULN system is established by limiting feeding.

I feed the fish quite a bit. No skinny fish in my system

I feed them a mix of Omega One and Hikari pellets 4-5 times a day and a chunk of mysis a few times a week.

Ike · Dec 23, 2009

TonyB said:
What's a good food?

What type of corals do you want to feed?

TonyB · Dec 23, 2009

My SPS.

naldopr · Dec 23, 2009

Ike said:
Radiums are nice bulbs, but more for color than growth IMO. The ozone may also be hurting your growth slighty by eliminating potential food for the corals. Rather than messing with bottles with who knows what in them try feeding your corals more heavily over the next few months. Feed your corals and they'll synthesize their own amino acids...

this 300 is a years old since first day on radium see the growth comparison

https://www.reef2reef.com/forums/f168/marineland-300g-show-tank-1-year-33492-3.html
:angel:

Ike · Dec 24, 2009

TonyB said:
My SPS.

DT's oyster eggs, oyster feast, the smallest golden pearls, and smaller rotifers would all be good choices.

Ike · Dec 24, 2009

naldopr said:
this 300 is a years old since first day on radium see the growth comparison

https://www.reef2reef.com/forums/f168/marineland-300g-show-tank-1-year-33492-3.html
:angel:

That's great, but the fact remains that there are much better choices with better par if growth is what you're after for high light corals.

Paul_N · Dec 24, 2009

Ike said:
DT's oyster eggs, oyster feast, the smallest golden pearls, and smaller rotifers would all be good choices.

This was one of the reasons I started using Rod's Food. I was buying the these individually and realized Rod's Food had this and more. Here are the ingredients from their site for just the coral blend:

"Shrimp, Scallop, Oyster, Clam, Squid, Brine shrimp, Frozen red cyclops, Fish eggs, Oyster eggs, Golden pearls (all sizes), Garlic, Selco, Astaxanthin (Haematococus pluvialis), Beta-meal (Dunalliella Salina), Spirulina, RO/DI water, Freshly harvested rotifers, freshly hatched baby brine shrimp."

Ike · Dec 24, 2009

Paul_PSU said:
This was one of the reasons I started using Rod's Food. I was buying the these individually and realized Rod's Food had this and more. Here are the ingredients from their site for just the coral blend:

"Shrimp, Scallop, Oyster, Clam, Squid, Brine shrimp, Frozen red cyclops, Fish eggs, Oyster eggs, Golden pearls (all sizes), Garlic, Selco, Astaxanthin (Haematococus pluvialis), Beta-meal (Dunalliella Salina), Spirulina, RO/DI water, Freshly harvested rotifers, freshly hatched baby brine shrimp."

Personally I'd rather feed seperately if my aim is to feed something in particular... I would imagine that the oyster eggs and small golden pearls make up a tiny tiny percentage of that food and in many cases a large percentage of that tiny portion will be gobbled up as a part of a larger chunk by a fish or invert.

Paul_N · Dec 24, 2009

Ike said:
Personally I'd rather feed seperately if my aim is to feed something in particular... I would imagine that the oyster eggs and small golden pearls make up a tiny tiny percentage of that food and in many cases a large percentage of that tiny portion will be gobbled up as a part of a larger chunk by a fish or invert.

I don't target feed. I create a snow storm in my tank. Unless you target feed the fish and the inverts will always get a big portion of whatever you put in your tank. It's really personal choice, no right or wrong one. I just put it out there for another option. regardless of % I have had great success with it since I have switched and saved money in the process.

Paul_N · Dec 24, 2009

As far as the amino thing goes, I agree with everyone else that the fish should just be fed more. I think the AA are a valid supplement if you have coral only or a very low bioload and shooting for ULNS. I used them when I would try to starve my tank by feeding very lightly and they helped the coral maintain color. If you feed the fish and have a decent bioload there really is not much of a need.

Ike · Dec 24, 2009

Paul_PSU said:
I don't target feed. I create a snow storm in my tank. Unless you target feed the fish and the inverts will always get a big portion of whatever you put in your tank. It's really personal choice, no right or wrong one. I just put it out there for another option. regardless of % I have had great success with it since I have switched and saved money in the process.

What I was trying to say is that I want to know exactly how much of which food I'm adding. With rods I don't know how much of that food is even capable of being eaten by an SPS coral. When I put a spoon of rotifers in my tank I at least know that all the food I'm adding is potential food for SPS, the coral I'm intending to feed. There's nothing wrong with Rod's and I've heard a lot of good things about it, but if my main goal were to feed SPS I wouldn't use it.