Treatment options for cyano?

[Simon Reefing]

Don’t mind tang he looked bad here. He was stressed after I was gone on vacation. I don’t care for Xenia to much but it really made the tank look full. I hope everything bounces back I’ll be pretty sad if it doesn’t

 

[Subsea]

here are some pictures from now I will try and find some before pictures. Xenia look bad most corals still closed after 2 25 gallon water changes. Cloudiness and smell are gone after adding carbon. Cyano was still present durning last water change at night. Saw 2 pods last night way less then normal but at least I saw a few alive. I don’t want to judge this to early but if I’m honest with everyone part of me really wishes I never did this. I never had this affect with chemiclean I choose to go this route because it seemed like it would be less chemicals and a bit more natural way. I don’t want to say if I regret it or not fully yet I want to see how my corals bounce back first.

hammer- never affected really
Goni- coming back a little
Mushrooms- coming back a little
Zoa- some are open most are ticked
Sps- polyps are fully extended today
Rock flower- never affected
Bubble coral (pearl)- never affected
Xenia- looks awful
leather- looks fine
Coral next to leather forgot name but softie kind of like Xenia not happy either

all of these corals have been exploding in coral growth. I always get the smallest frag to watch it grow.


refugium- whiteish rotated and looks a bit better
Pods- haven’t seen as many as I normally do well check tonight though once lights have been down for a while
Snails- noticed 2 snails did not make it. I have a v. puffer but I have never seen him attack 2 snail back to back. I truly believe it was the Hydrogen but I can’t be certain.

sorry for your troubles. Stay the course.

Now that the cloudiness is gone, you do not need to do more water changes. Continue with aggressive carbon replacement schedule and consider adding more circulation and aireation.

At this point, adding diversity of bacteria is paramount.

In my experience, the most effective deterrent to out of control Cynobacteria is diversity of micro fauna & fauna. I get that with diver collected live sand & live rock. Not only will these micro janitors compete with Cynobacteria for food but many will recycle organic & inorganic nutrients into live food for hungry mouths.

Picture 1
Forty eight hours ago, I treated 30G ornamental seaweed lagoon with ChemiClean. This tank is less than 1 year mature.

Picture 2
24 hours ago, I treated this 55G tank with ChemiClean. I will wait 24 more hours and do 20% water change by vacuming the substrate.

Both tanks are skimmerless & sumpless.

 

[Sean Clark]

Thank you for updating and for your pics. The snails are surprising to me, I trust your assessment though, odds are your puffer didn't suddenly start going after them. Your corals seem to be opening up in the same order that I observed sps, lps softies. The hammer and the bubble coral not reacting is interesting. Would you be willing to post your photos under white lights?

 

[Simon Reefing]

Will update later with pictures under white lights. Update cyano is back and corals still closed. Regret doing this more and more by the hour tank was running perfect and I feel like this dosage maybe was to much. Thankfully no fish were harmed or stressed. If they would have been affected I probably would have just shut everything down there the main reason I upgraded. I’m really hoping my corals bounce back. They aren’t expensive when compared to the equipment I run but this was 2 years of growth. One little zoa head turned into whole rocks full. xeina grow like weeds but I had a massive rock full that looked really nice. Nothing has melted away so I’m really really hoping everything just needs time. I’m not hopeful though. The issue might not be the hydrogen but it might be the after math of everything that dies off. I would like to see how the OPs tank is doing afterwards it seems we had close to the same reaction.

 

[Sean Clark]

Thank you for the update. Please show us your filtration too if you can. The only thing that I am not sure about is your xeina, which appears to be more sensitive. Am I correct to assume that you had heavy red mats covering a lot of your reef? The red tint to the water that you mentioned after dosing is what makes me think this.

 

[Simon Reefing]

Please excuse the mess i haven’t had time to clean. Far left side gathers the cyano most lily flow even though Nyros are turned high had gyres but they were to strong. No think cyano spots throughout the tank issue mainly was on a few zoas a very small section. Bioballs are in Red Sea cups as well they were just added today just because I’m paranoid. Sorry for any spelling/grammar mistakes trying to post quickly.

 

[CourtNjoeZreef]

So an observation both @Marcelo Simon and I have made is a almost instant explosion of Coraline growth. I had none then it went nuts on some PVC pipes I have and even a few spots popping up on the rock work this morning. Previous to the treatment there was no visible in my system

 

[CourtNjoeZreef]

pH swinging and rather high not entirely sure why. I think I need to recalibrate but even after my last calibration it was 8.4+

 

[lubeck]

Did the Cyno come back? Curious if you don’t have a skimmer or socks is it safe to dose with peroxide?

I bought a microscope I should get it tuesday. Want to be sure it’s Cyno vs Dino’s.

im might try to scoop some off the sand tomorrow and add peroxide to See if it dissolves.

 

[CourtNjoeZreef]

Did the Cyno come back? Curious if you don’t have a skimmer or socks is it safe to dose with peroxide?

I bought a microscope I should get it tuesday. Want to be sure it’s Cyno vs Dino’s.

im might try to scoop some off the sand tomorrow and add peroxide to See if it dissolves.

Ultimately my final answer to this problem was no peroxide dosing or any of that.

I used chemiclean exactly how it is written on the box. Did one round of it. Now I stir my sand twice a week and make it a point to do my water changes on time.

The cyano is gone (from view it's always lurking) and has not had an outbreak since.

I don't let my no3 and po4 bottom out anything above zero but not high is where I'm at. No dino no cyano.

I have chemipure in the sump along with a waste away 30day gel. Smooth sailing

 

[lubeck]

I just took some of whatever I have into a container added 30 ml of peroxide All the sediment immediately rose to the top. Does this mean its Cyno? Would Dino’s do the same thing?

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[Miami Reef]

I just took some of whatever I have into a container added 30 ml of peroxide All the sediment immediately rise to the top. Does this mean it Cyno? Would Dino’s do the same thing?

notice all at the bottom

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I don’t have much experience, but I think chemiclean would work better. Don’t quote me though.

 

[lubeck]

I don’t have much experience, but I think chemiclean would work better. Don’t quote me though.

I don’t have a skimmer or socks. Can filter floss do the job with chemiclean

 

[Tiki_Reef]

I have a small patch in the back of my tank that always comes back. I had a pretty good outbreak 2 years ago h202 at 2.5 ml per gallon pretty much did it in other than that little patch, plenty of flow etc ICP test looks good, I just vacuum it out when it shows up and it disappears for 5 or 6 months then comes back no sweat off my back never ends up anywhere else.

 

[old salt reefer]

Well I hate to say this but there is a benefit to cyano in that if it grows on your GHA it kills it dead, turf algae too. Take about a week or 2 to do this, just keep cleaning cyano off your corals. I've found most times I can just stop doing water changes to allow my nutrients to balance out and the cyano will go away. Side note: pincushion urchins eat cyano like no tomorrow.

 

[old salt reefer]

sorry double post.

 

[thatmanMIKEson]

Well I hate to say this but there is a benefit to cyano in that if it grows on your GHA it kills it dead, turf algae too. Take about a week or 2 to do this, just keep cleaning cyano off your corals. I've found most times I can just stop doing water changes to allow my nutrients to balance out and the cyano will go away. Side note: pincushion urchins eat cyano like no tomorrow.

Do they really? Or do they just carry it around on them like frags?

 

[old salt reefer]

LOL. For sale one very rare red long haired urchin.

 

[piranhaman00]

2.5mL/gal is an insane dose. Did everything die?
What are people doing for Spirulina ?