Triton sump - Trigger or Synergy Reef?

The vertex Alfa 170 looks like it may fit, I wonder if brs would physically check that. Again I'm looking forward to getting a life reef
 
I'd love to be in the Alpha class but the budget puts me in the Omega.
 
Very surprised how small the skimmer sections are, imo should not be less than 10", alot of good skimmers on market, 1 less than 9" choice goes down fast, synergy is respectable in size but not sure vertex, bubble king, deltec... will fit

That is why i went with Synergy 44
 
I spoke with trigger and they can move a baffle and add 1-1.5" to skimmer area to 34 model with little to no charge. Wish i could see build quality side by side to justify added $300 for synergy
 
I went with the Trigger 44 for my new build. I was also a bit concerned with the skimmer compartment size. But, my planned skimmer is a LifeReef which will work just fine.
 
Cooool,please let us know how the life reef works out if you get yours first. I probably won't be able to afford mine for a month or two. What light are you guys going with? I keep going back and forth between the h380 the e200 from zetlight
 
I purchased the trigger system 44. The skimmer section is in the smaller side but I also purchased a skimz SL203 DC skimmer. I did a dry fit, it was tight but it fits!
 
The shipping on the Synergy is pretty steep. As far as I know, it's only available direct, right? At least with the Trigger, you can get that from BRS with free shipping.
@Steve P Shipping for large sumps like the 44 is not cheap. Our shipping cost is around $180 + packaging costs. The Trigger 44 is a smaller sump than our Synergy TS-44. Make sure to look at the specs as this is what makes ours more expensive to ship and why it costs more. Yes they are both 44" long but the width and height are totally different. When shipping an item large items are based on dimensional weight and not actual weights. This puts our 44 into an oversize category and we get hit with a $100 oversize fee from UPS or Fedex.

for how much they are charging if the market ever goes south i will start making sumps...
@Brian Bieger Your better off investing into bitcoin. We are not getting rich by any means lol..... Acrylic prices just jumped over 25% in the last month. Being a small family business and not a big corporation means we can't just absorb costs like that. We take pride in our products and customers.

Very surprised how small the skimmer sections are, imo should not be less than 10", alot of good skimmers on market, 1 less than 9" choice goes down fast, synergy is respectable in size but not sure vertex, bubble king, deltec... will fit

@drtrash We can move some of the baffles for no cost. Just depends on how much is needed. This is why we build all of our sumps to order. It allows for modifications and no hefty fees. Off the shelf sumps can't offer that.

I spoke with trigger and they can move a baffle and add 1-1.5" to skimmer area to 34 model with little to no charge. Wish i could see build quality side by side to justify added $300 for synergy
I am not sure where the $300 difference is? What are you comparing? Also we build our sumps to order so customer can modify the skimmer/refuge sections slightly as well, at NO cost. This is something we do all the time.


Just to clarify why our Sumps are slightly more expensive you have to look at the actual specs of the sumps.
You will notice in the specs that our sumps are not apples to apples. Trigger names theirs a 44 so people would be confused and think they are getting the same size sump as our 44, but they are very different. Here are the specs:

Synergy TS-44 Specifications:

  • Dimensions: 44″ long x 18″ wide x 18″ high
  • Refugium Section: 16.25″ x 17.5″ (Approximately 20 Gallons)
  • Skimmer Section: 13.25″ x 17.5″
  • Return Pump Section: 6.75″ x 17.5″
  • Total Water Volume: 58 gallons
  • Skimmer Water Level: 6″ to 10″ adjustable
  • Removable Laser cut media tray in between the baffles use for filter pads and bags of media
  • Laser etched water level markings to allow easy setup of skimmer water depth from 6″ to 9.5″
  • High Quality Precision Machined Poly carbonate lids over Return Pump area
  • High Quality machine rounded and chamfered edges
  • Advanced designed Euro-bracing also has cord routing and Dosing connections built in
  • 4 x 1/4″ John Guest tubing holders for plug n play Triton dosing / ato connection
  • Drain Input Fittings: 3 x 1.5″ ABS Bulkheads (Allows Plug n Play with the Synergy Reef Shadow® Overflow systems)
  • Return Area has a 1″ bulkhead for easy return pump hookups.

Trigger 44 Specifications:

Dimensions - 44" L x 16" W x 15" H (42 Gallons)
Refugium Section - 22" x 15.5" (approx 20 gallons) If you do the math there is no way the refugium can be 20 gallons in this sump.
Skimmer Section - 9.5" x 15.5"
Return Section - 6" x 15.5"
Drains - Three 1" PVC Couplers


Here is a picture showing the difference in size with a 18 x 18 sump and a 15 x 15 sump. You can see how much larger the 18 x 18 sump is.
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Mixer, thanks for info did not know there is some design flexibility have an extra inch in skimmer helps a lot if there were top specs out that would help. Just knowing bottom size is only half the pic if you need to know drop in size. No one posts thickness of acrylic, synergy has all bells and whistles in design. Is a 34 a large ship?
 
As a consumer we often make the mistake of bottom line cost decision, if you do more research there are alittle bit more info but not much. If your product costs more, put out more info do we can see value
 
Mixer, thanks for info did not know there is some design flexibility have an extra inch in skimmer helps a lot if there were top specs out that would help. Just knowing bottom size is only half the pic if you need to know drop in size. No one posts thickness of acrylic, synergy has all bells and whistles in design. Is a 34 a large ship?
Your welcome. As hobbyists ourselves we understand what is wanted by our customers. We try and build what we would want and that's I do the design work. I understand that the skimmer needs to fit past the bracing to fit into the skimmer section so I design them to fit what ever the bottom foot print is. The bottom foot print is how me determine the size for skimmer. I totally know why you would be concerned about this though.

As a consumer we often make the mistake of bottom line cost decision, if you do more research there are alittle bit more info but not much. If your product costs more, put out more info do we can see value
Yes exactly. Purchases made solely on price comparison, unless it is the exact same item (same manufacturer and model) usually need a little more digging to see what makes the price difference. As a consumer myself I try and research as much as possible before I make big purchases and not just shop based on price alone. We get compared all the time with competitors based on price and actually when comparing us to them, ours is actually cheaper for what you are getting. Not cheaper overall since they are different products, but cheaper for what you are getting. We sell our sumps only direct and do not distribute to distributors or stores. This means that we do not have to pay a distributor a margin to market our products. This allows us to put that money back in to the product and make a better product. Trigger sells to everybody (they are owned by a distributor) and there is a huge markup in their business model. This means they have to cut costs somewhere. Usually in materials and design.

But yes I agree we as a company need to and are going to be putting out a lot more one on one information about our products. We have relied solely on our customers to provide feedback to the community about our quality and what makes ours a better product. We have a lot of repeat customers that purchase multiple sumps from us.
 
I wanted to go with the synergy sump but with it being 18" wide I can't get it in and out of my stand. I like to be able to remove equipment without doing and structural changes and I have 17" with the side panel removed.
 
You won my business by being available and communicating. I do see multiple return customers but they don’t really give details, thank you for being passionate about hobby
 
You won my business by being available and communicating. I do see multiple return customers but they don’t really give details, thank you for being passionate about hobby

Anytime! I have been a hobbyist for over 25 years and love what I do. Being part of the community is what it is all about for me!
 
Ok, so for those that have participated/watched this thread, if given the choice would you go Trigger or Synergy for your Triton sump?
 
I would check out Elite Aquatics. I have them making me a Triton style sump with thicker acrylic than Synergy and Trigger provides in their sumps.
 

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