Velvet or ich?

TvanB1 · May 24, 2017

I have never had to deal with velvet and have only had to deal with ich once. My male clown has a bunch of tiny spots and im not sure which it is. They are not perfectly round, more oval and lopsided. They are a fuzzy, white color. I have had them for 4 days now and they just started showing symptoms yesterday. They are currently in QT

miyags · May 24, 2017

It could be the start of brooklynella. I'd start a copper treatment now. Don't wait.Google Brooklynella hostilis and Uronema marinum.

ngoodermuth · May 24, 2017

It's POSSIBLE that it could be the beginning stages of brook, but much more likely-is velvet.

Read post #2 on emergency treatment
Velvet (Amyloodinium ocellatum)

https://www.reef2reef.com/index.php?threads/Velvet-(Amyloodinium-ocellatum).217570/

TvanB1 · May 24, 2017

Thanks,
Ill treat with fw dips, Acriflavine, and CP.

TvanB1 · May 24, 2017

Where can I get Acriflavine from?

melypr1985 · May 24, 2017

MMacro said:
Where can I get Acriflavine from?

you can find it in Ruby reef rally or acriflavin ms. You may have to order either one. I agree that this could be the start of brook. the treatment for velvet that ngoodermuth posted will treat both brook and velvet especially if metroplex is run in conjunction with the CP or copper. Of course, brook is always the first suspect with new clownfish. Luckily this treatment plan will address both.

TvanB1 · May 24, 2017

melypr1985 said:
you can find it in Ruby reef rally or acriflavin ms. You may have to order either one. I agree that this could be the start of brook. the treatment for velvet that ngoodermuth posted will treat both brook and velvet especially if metroplex is run in conjunction with the CP or copper. Of course, brook is always the first suspect with new clownfish. Luckily this treatment plan will address both.

Ok
It would take four-five days to get here...
Keep freshwater dipping?

I have metroplex, paraguard, focus, prazi, methyline blue, and malachite green on hand.
I can get CP from my lfs

melypr1985 · May 24, 2017

MMacro said:
Ok
It would take four-five days to get here...
Keep freshwater dipping?

I have metroplex, paraguard, focus, prazi, methyline blue, and malachite green on hand.
I can get CP from my lfs

You don't want to do daily freshwater dips. If you can get Quick Cure from your LFS, that has formalin in it. You can use it in place of the acriflavin, though it doesn't have the antiseptic properties that acriflavin has, it will treat the brook and/or velvet on the fish before placing them into QT. I also wouldn't try CP you get from the LFS. For it to be trustworthy it should come from a pharmacy so you know it's purity and know that it will be effective.

TvanB1 · May 24, 2017

melypr1985 said:
You don't want to do daily freshwater dips. If you can get Quick Cure from your LFS, that has formalin in it. You can use it in place of the acriflavin, though it doesn't have the antiseptic properties that acriflavin has, it will treat the brook and/or velvet on the fish before placing them into QT. I also wouldn't try CP you get from the LFS. For it to be trustworthy it should come from a pharmacy so you know it's purity and know that it will be effective.

Ok, ill pick up some formalin. What are some good places to get CP from? Do they sell it at any pharmacy? Sorry about the vague questions. I am in a rush to get somewhere and don't have much time to research.

TvanB1 · May 24, 2017

Before posting this thread I did a 3 min fw dip. I just came home and most of the spots have disappeared. Velvet?

TvanB1 · May 24, 2017

Lfs has formalin MS.
Would that work?

Also, I forgot to mention in the first post that they are reluctant to eat.

TvanB1 · May 24, 2017

going to my vet tonight to see if I can get a prescription of cp
Thanks!

ngoodermuth · May 24, 2017

MMacro said:
Before posting this thread I did a 3 min fw dip. I just came home and most of the spots have disappeared. Velvet?

Probably, but it could still be brook...they will be back. I would still do the formalin dip followed by copper or cp /metroplex.

melypr1985 · May 24, 2017

ngoodermuth said:
Probably, but it could still be brook...they will be back. I would still do the formalin dip followed by copper or cp /metroplex.

agreed

4FordFamily · May 24, 2017

ngoodermuth said:
It's POSSIBLE that it could be the beginning stages of brook, but much more likely-is velvet.

Read post #2 on emergency treatment
Velvet (Amyloodinium ocellatum)

https://www.reef2reef.com/index.php?threads/Velvet-(Amyloodinium-ocellatum).217570/

X3 I agree this is either brook or velvet I lean towards velvet but early on it's difficult to tell. If this were any other fish (other than a clown) I would be nearly certain.

TvanB1 · May 24, 2017

Luckily I caught it in quarantine!
This is why I always TTM/Observe all my fish for weeks.

TvanB1 · May 24, 2017

Just got back from my local vet.
They said that they couldn't prescribe any to me.

I guess ill try another vet.

melypr1985 · May 24, 2017

MMacro said:
Just got back from my local vet.
They said that they couldn't prescribe any to me.

I guess ill try another vet.

you are likely to have trouble finding a vet that will write the scrip. You might print out the information in the CP thread to take to the vets to read.

TvanB1 · May 24, 2017

I printed out a bunch of articles but none of them could get it for me.
There is an aquatic vet in santa cruz that said they might be able to. They said they would call back. Fingers crossed.