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SneakyTortuga said:
If you had to put a monthly reagent cost for the alka what would it be?
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Cheapest out there, did the math a while back. I think it's about $3-$4 a month testing 4x a day. I'm still using my $110 bottle of bulk reagent that I bought over 2 years ago. I test minimum 4 times a day. It automatically tests more if I'm out of range and it's making adjustments to my dKH.
 
BigJohnny said:
Cheapest out there, did the math a while back. I think it's about $3-$4 a month testing 4x a day. I'm still using my $110 bottle of bulk reagent that I bought over 2 years ago. I test minimum 4 times a day. It automatically tests more if I'm out of range and it's making adjustments to my dKH.
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I’m guessing you dose 2 part then. I was told that the alka has problems but i haven’t seen many ( if any) negative reviews. I’m seriously considering it but like i said I’m waiting till macna. It’s good to know the Reagent isn’t expensive.

I almost want to not buy the trident right away to see what issues arise on the initial release then make my decision between the 2
 
SneakyTortuga said:
I’m guessing you dose 2 part then. I was told that the alka has problems but i haven’t seen many ( if any) negative reviews. I’m seriously considering it but like i said I’m waiting till macna. It’s good to know the Reagent isn’t expensive.

I almost want to not buy the trident right away to see what issues arise on the initial release then make my decision between the 2
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I dose kalkwasser and Triton core7, but it works great with a calcium reactor as well. The alkatronic shuts off my core7 dosing pumps via included bluetooth outlet when dKH goes above my set range (could use this to turn off your calcrx feed pump). It also sends the dKH to my apex which will shut off my kalk dosing pump if it gets an additional .2 dKH higher. I like to keep the kalk running, shutting the dosing pump off is usually enough. If my dKH gets too low it doses carbonate solution with its own dosing pump.

Who told you the alka has problems? I literally havent heard of any negative experiences outside of initial setup which were easily remedied. All those mainly had to do with the noise of some pumps which they replaced with quieter ones.
 
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BigJohnny said:
I dose kalkwasser and Triton core7, but it works great with a calcium reactor as well. The alkatronic shuts off my core7 dosing pumps via included bluetooth outlet when dKH goes above my set range (could use this to turn off your calcrx feed pump). It also sends the dKH to my apex which will shut off my kalk dosing pump if it gets an additional .2 dKH higher. I like to keep the kalk running, shutting the dosing pump off is usually enough. If my dKH gets too low it doses carbonate solution with its own dosing pump.

Who told you the alka has problems? I literally havent heard of any negative experiences outside of initial setup which were easily remedied. All those mainly had to do with the noise of some pumps which they replaced with quieter ones.
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I think most of the issues were with the noisy heads. How loud are the new dosing heads? Would it be audible in a living room settings?
 
SneakyTortuga said:
I think most of the issues were with the noisy heads. How loud are the new dosing heads? Would it be audible in a living room settings?
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Those heads dont exist anymore, they were replaced on the 2nd or 3rd round of production. It's very quiet now, my skimmer and dosing pumps are louder. You can hear when the machines testing but it doesnt bother me at all.
 
SneakyTortuga said:
I think most of the issues were with the noisy heads. How loud are the new dosing heads? Would it be audible in a living room settings?
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The noise issue with the latest Alkatronic doesn't really exist anymore. I installed one for a client and was like dang it's quiet. I've read through the thread and here are my thoughts:

1. If you want to wait for the Trident, wait for the Trident while the rest of us that have the Alkatronic enjoy stability and the time saved not having to manually measure.
2. The choice also depends on how you currently run your system or how you want to ultimately run your system. If you have a CaRx, you would be doing yourself justice by having something like the Alkatronic.
3. Having the Alkatronic will open up new ways for you to maintain your system. Think Kalk / CaRx or Triton method, etc. You will have more control over what happens to your system.
4. The cost aspect shouldn't even be a concern. Overall, the Alkatronic reagent long-term cost is minimal (definitely much less than $40/month).
5. Neptune may have more support, but the Alkatronic is currently supported by the creator of the unit. That could be both good and bad; just depends on how you look at things.
6. EVERY piece of technology will have some type of issues. Just can you live with them or not. My Alkatronic has been great at what it is supposed to do, keep my dKH stable and act when it isn't. The noise is gone and the only remaining issue that I see occurring relates to getting WiFi connected (which has a lot to do with the end-users knowledge of their home infrastructure, i.e. router, etc).
7. The Trident may be great once released, but the Alkatronic is also a great piece of gear for our reefs. Also like that it is independent of the Apex. I've been in a situation where my entire Apex ecosystem failed because of a bad module. Doesn't mean that the Apex isn't a good system, but just like not having every single egg in that basket.
 
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mitch91175 said:
The noise issue with the latest Alkatronic doesn't really exist anymore. I installed one for a client and was like dang it's quiet. I've read through the thread and here are my thoughts:

1. If you want to wait for the Trident, wait for the Trident while the rest of us that have the Alkatronic enjoy stability and the time saved not having to manually measure.
2. The choice also depends on how you currently run your system or how you want to ultimately run your system. If you have a CaRx, you would be doing yourself justice by having something like the Alkatronic.
3. Having the Alkatronic will open up new ways for you to maintain your system. Think Kalk / CaRx or Triton method, etc. You will have more control over what happens to your system.
4. The cost aspect shouldn't even be a concern. Overall, the Alkatronic reagent long-term cost is minimal (definitely much less than $40/month).
5. Neptune may have more support, but the Alkatronic is currently supported by the creator of the unit. That could be both good and bad; just depends on how you look at things.
6. EVERY piece of technology will have some type of issues. Just can you live with them or not. My Alkatronic has been great at what it is supposed to do, keep my dKH stable and act when it isn't. The noise is gone and the only remaining issue that I see occurring relates to getting WiFi connected (which has a lot to do with the end-users knowledge of their home infrastructure, i.e. router, etc).
7. The Trident may be great once released, but the Alkatronic is also a great piece of gear for our reefs. Also like that it is independent of the Apex. I've been in a situation where my entire Apex ecosystem failed because of a bad module. Doesn't mean that the Apex isn't a good system, but just like not having every single egg in that basket.
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Forgot $40 a month its $3-$4 a month for reagent
 
mitch91175 said:
The noise issue with the latest Alkatronic doesn't really exist anymore. I installed one for a client and was like dang it's quiet. I've read through the thread and here are my thoughts:

1. If you want to wait for the Trident, wait for the Trident while the rest of us that have the Alkatronic enjoy stability and the time saved not having to manually measure.
2. The choice also depends on how you currently run your system or how you want to ultimately run your system. If you have a CaRx, you would be doing yourself justice by having something like the Alkatronic.
3. Having the Alkatronic will open up new ways for you to maintain your system. Think Kalk / CaRx or Triton method, etc. You will have more control over what happens to your system.
4. The cost aspect shouldn't even be a concern. Overall, the Alkatronic reagent long-term cost is minimal (definitely much less than $40/month).
5. Neptune may have more support, but the Alkatronic is currently supported by the creator of the unit. That could be both good and bad; just depends on how you look at things.
6. EVERY piece of technology will have some type of issues. Just can you live with them or not. My Alkatronic has been great at what it is supposed to do, keep my dKH stable and act when it isn't. The noise is gone and the only remaining issue that I see occurring relates to getting WiFi connected (which has a lot to do with the end-users knowledge of their home infrastructure, i.e. router, etc).
7. The Trident may be great once released, but the Alkatronic is also a great piece of gear for our reefs. Also like that it is independent of the Apex. I've been in a situation where my entire Apex ecosystem failed because of a bad module. Doesn't mean that the Apex isn't a good system, but just like not having every single egg in that basket.
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Well said. It’s definitely the only heavy hitter I would consider at the moment besides the trident
 
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Trident came out last night at midnight. Go get one they are selling out fast.
 
305Reefer said:
Trident came out last night at midnight. Go get one they are selling out fast.
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Sold out before midnight...
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Pretty much certain that I'm going for Alkatronic. BRS is testing a unit, but I doubt they'll bring it in so quick that would cannibalize sales of Director and Trident. Trident will keep selling out anyways so more concerned for Director sales. If BRS doesn't bring in by this month or next, then will just order from Saltwater aquarium or Premium Aquatics. Will be interesting on the price competition and changes throughout the next year or two.
 
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sergebmw2 said:
Sold out before midnight...
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I just found 3 vendors online selling them. Try harder. They released at midnight, if you were looking for them before midnight, youre doing it wrong.
 
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