What area thoughts on RECYCLED water change?

[Taposh Mallick]

I have been doing this practice since last three months, my setup is sump less and I do recycled water change every 15-20 days after treating the water in WTP, the setup is like a freshwater tank setup having a HOB and air bubbler. NO any sort of Plumbing to WTP.

 

[Untamedrose]

Umm to be clear....you take dirty water out of your display tank..... put it into a "Waste treatment plant" aka a seperate tank with just a hang on and an air bubbler? (really nothing else?)
then take the water out of that to put back into the DT.


Umm never heard of that one before, I think Chems will tell the real story. What are your WTP tanks chems before and after 15-20 days?

 

[CarrieB]

What are you trying to accomplish?

 

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So...confused...

 

[Taposh Mallick]

parameters before treatment
nitrates at 10ppm
phosphate at 0.25ppm
alkalinity at 6-7dkh
no other swings...
I am trying to accomplish sustainable reefing...

 

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I'm still not sure what's going on here, but my answer would be to use brand new water for changes.

 

[Untamedrose]

parameters before treatment
nitrates at 10ppm
phosphate at 0.25ppm
alkalinity at 6-7dkh
no other swings...
I am trying to accomplish sustainable reefing...

And After?
are you putting Clean water back in?
nitrates at 0ppm phosphates at 0?

How are you adding back in cal, mag ect minerals?(most basic reef systems do it with water changes/new salt mix)

and isnt that a lot of work for an sustainable reef system?

 

[Taposh Mallick]

i have WTP in natural sunlight which has DSB and PS and a powerhead to oxygenate water, PS runs only for six hours on day of water change, the water in WTP is free of nitrates and phosphate, i take out 12G from DT, keep it seperate, fill DT with water from WTP and then refill the WTP with contaminated water taken out from DT, this takes 15min, and once in 15-20 days.

 

[Taposh Mallick]

i dont find swings in calcium and magnesium, i find alkalinity to be less which i dose using seachem fusion 2.
it takes only 15 min to do the operation and in 15-20 days time

 

[Taposh Mallick]

parameters after treatment...
cal at 450
mag at 1450
alk at 6 which i raise to 8
nitrates 0
phosphate 0

 

[Taposh Mallick]

here is a recent vedio, vedio is little bad due to phone camera not very good.

 

[Taposh Mallick]

 

[Joshky]

Unless you're replacing trace elements somehow I don't see this being sustainable. Why not just use a system like triton that's proven and will help keep everything where it should be if you don't want to do real water changes? I have a feeling this is some attempt to save money, not the right hobby to skimp like this unless you really have no other choice, in which case more power to you.. but it's not going to be a long term solution.

 

[Taposh Mallick]

Unless you're replacing trace elements somehow I don't see this being sustainable. Why not just use a system like triton that's proven and will help keep everything where it should be if you don't want to do real water changes? I have a feeling this is some attempt to save money, not the right hobby to skimp like this unless you really have no other choice, in which case more power to you.. but it's not going to be a long term solution.

this method saves energy, water and cost involved, trace elements gets dosed with two part system, the composition has all trace elements. nutrients are not an issue for this method, once in two months, i am thinking of using new water and new salt.
all equipments dont run 24x7.
i have good flow around rocks so Berlin Method helps.

 

[Untamedrose]

I have to admit I dont understand........... It's double the water into buckets, hauling, pouring........... To equal the filtration of basically an empty sump with no water changes?

to save what 4.00 a month?(roughly what 12 gals of new SW will run)

 

[Joshky]

this method saves energy, water and cost involved, trace elements gets dosed with two part system, the composition has all trace elements. nutrients are not an issue for this method, once in two months, i am thinking of using new water and new salt.
all equipments dont run 24x7.
i have good flow around rocks so Berlin Method helps.

Ah so you're using something similar to ESV B-Ionic 2-part that has trace elements, got it. It's an interesting idea, I'll give it that.

 

[Taposh Mallick]

this method does not requires the use of all high end equipments 24x7x365days.
also what is getting depleted is being furnished bcos regular test after every 15 days are done which normally people do.
it takes only 15min to do the maintainence every 15-20 days.

 

[Sabellafella]

this method does not requires the use of all high end equipments 24x7x365days.
also what is getting depleted is being furnished bcos regular test after every 15 days are done which normally people do.
it takes only 15min to do the maintainence every 15-20 days.

Sounds alright, im sure its not a bad thing. Only thing i would be worryd about is a shift in the ionic balance between elements like mag chloride nd sulfate just from going without a water change for so long with dosing. If its doing a good job the way you want it then keep it going bud! Wouldnt it be easyer to just plumb the tanks together? Or even just take the equipment out and toss it into your display? If the sole purpose is to remove nutrients, it could possibly be easier to go a different route.

 

[willthethrill]

Reefing evolves every year. Things that were the trend 10 years ago are barely used now. Every new idea that comes into the hobby was thought up by one dude experimenting something new. That's the whole point of experimenting. Ive never heard of anyone doing this, but if you're actually looking at the water chemistry and everything checks out on paper...and you're having success, keep it up. Maybe ppl will jump on the band wagon and try it too. Knowledge is power!

 

[Taposh Mallick]