Flippers4pups
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Whats yalls thoughts on these leds
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Your going to get me worked up again! Lol
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Do these mars have a timer on them or how do u have urs timed?2 32" would cover nicely. I have 3 16" units over my 6' 125. Coverage was decent without pulling the lenses, but pulling all the lenses made a huge difference. It's easily done. Not hard at all.
Pictures taken right after I mounted them. Without lenses pulled. I need to take a picture with them pulled!
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Not sure what u mean by this? Are u saying u cant get lighting with out breaking the bank?
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They are not internally timed. You would need two household timers, one for the blue channel and one for the white channel.
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Lol. It's all good.
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Im saying that people are all about posting the BRS video link now which does not shine a positive light on Black Boxes.
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Oh i got ya but the once in the pic above look great too me on his tank.
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works like a champ. but you get a lot of shadows. switching to t5 currently
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Not sure, I don't know that they specify.
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I think it was 2014. The unit that Greg had that caught fire isn't sold anymore. Discontinued years ago.
Nothing like the current black boxes sold. Different design.
Nothing like the current black boxes sold. Different design.
Guys, the fixture was not mine. It was at Unique Corals. Sanjay Joshi and I went up there to check out their facility. While we were waiting for Joe, the owner, Dave Botwin (o2manyfish) was showing us around. I say that light as I was curious about LED and it looked very stout. Ad dave turned it on it shot fire out the ends then poured out black smoke after it was disconneded. The picture above was the companion fixture that they were experimenting with. I told Ryan the story several months ago so that is why he did not recall the details. Sorry for the confusion. At that point I decided to never use any off brand products as I felt it is not worth it to me to loose everything because of a faulty product. It wasn't that they built crap so much as there was no liability to the seller due to being off shore. I would rather stick to larger more established companies and distributors that are from first world countries that can be held accountable. Mainly because they better stand behind their products.
If you choose black box LEDs and they work for you that is great, it's just not my cup of tea. I care about looks and performance. The performance numbers that BRS provided are enough for me to never consider them even if they were UL listed. And the looks, well.....
If you choose black box LEDs and they work for you that is great, it's just not my cup of tea. I care about looks and performance. The performance numbers that BRS provided are enough for me to never consider them even if they were UL listed. And the looks, well.....
Flippers4pups
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I respect your opinion and you clearing things up for us. In no way was myself or anyone else I've read implying any misrepresentation coming from you or the club you belong to.
As far as Ryan and the details, as fellow reefers, as side from the "black box debate", don't you think that he should have reconfirmed his explanation of this event before going public with details? He clearly stated it was your box and in your home.
Fire is a fire, without a doubt and there is no disputing that. Your story is solid in my book. But, you may disagree with me here and I will respect that, but not all Chinese made led systems are made the same. As is any other led system made here or abroad. The one that caught fire wasn't the one he reviewed in his video, but it implied that it was. It was like saying " don't drive a foreign car, because chances are you could have an accident in it."
This isn't standing up for my and anyone else's decision to purchase and use these boxes. My bone of contention is with Ryan and his motives that were clear in his review. By all means he personally has his own opinion and has a right to voice it as he sees fit. But with so many aspects of this review that focused on fire and failure, that didn't have any data that is "reviewable by the public" and no way to substantiate the claims, this came off, as intended, completely biased.
He would have been better to have said "I can't ethically do this review do to the poor workmanship" or " because of the perceived potential of a fire"....... I would have respected that.
It wasn't a review, but a public bashing with information that was partially incorrect and that came off that way.
Thank you Greg, for your response and clearing up what happened.
As far as Ryan and the details, as fellow reefers, as side from the "black box debate", don't you think that he should have reconfirmed his explanation of this event before going public with details? He clearly stated it was your box and in your home.
Fire is a fire, without a doubt and there is no disputing that. Your story is solid in my book. But, you may disagree with me here and I will respect that, but not all Chinese made led systems are made the same. As is any other led system made here or abroad. The one that caught fire wasn't the one he reviewed in his video, but it implied that it was. It was like saying " don't drive a foreign car, because chances are you could have an accident in it."
This isn't standing up for my and anyone else's decision to purchase and use these boxes. My bone of contention is with Ryan and his motives that were clear in his review. By all means he personally has his own opinion and has a right to voice it as he sees fit. But with so many aspects of this review that focused on fire and failure, that didn't have any data that is "reviewable by the public" and no way to substantiate the claims, this came off, as intended, completely biased.
He would have been better to have said "I can't ethically do this review do to the poor workmanship" or " because of the perceived potential of a fire"....... I would have respected that.
It wasn't a review, but a public bashing with information that was partially incorrect and that came off that way.
Thank you Greg, for your response and clearing up what happened.
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I have 6 mars aquas over my 6' x 3' x 18" peninsula mixed reef and have no problems growing lps and sps corals, I did recently remove the lenses to give a more uniform coverage and less of a spotlight affect and so far everything is doing great. Only downfall is not being able to ramp up and down the lights, which i supplement with 2 current orbit marines. Just recently bought a hydra 26 and am trying to play with it but definitely found the mars aquas to be easier plug and play option on timers.
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BRS just released a vid about those lights. It's worth checking out.
