When it rains, it pours....

[ngoodermuth]

I did not but I will do another when I get home.
I also haven’t seen my purple tang eat in over a week so should I just abandon copper all together of back off slowly?

I wouldn’t remove the copper completely... just back off until it is between 1.75-2.0. It could still be keeping ich/velvet at bay.

Do you have metroplex on hand?

 

[ngoodermuth]

I think I would get aggressive at this point.

Do a water change to get the copper back to the appropriate level first. Then, give another 90-minute rally bath to all of the fish and dose the QT with kanaplex + metroplex + furan-2, in addition to the copper.

You’ll want to run ALL three, together for 14 days.

The furan-2 is dosed daily. The metro/kanaplex will be dosed every 48 hours after 25% water change (make sure copper is in the bucket before it hits the tank) Dose the metroplex in the higher range - 2 scoops per 10 gallons.

Add as much water movement as possible. An airstone and a powerhead aimed directly at the surface.

This combination of treatments will cover ich, velvet, brook, uronema, and bacterial infections.

Once you’ve finished 14 days, I’d highly suggest setting up a second sterile QT (med-free) and transferring all fish from the current tank to that one.

If there are still symptoms of infection, you may need to run a more aggressive course of antibiotics in the second QT without copper. NFG is preferable, but Triple Sulfa + Furan-2 make a decent substitute if you aren’t able to get the NFG.

 

[The new fish on the block]

I think my PT eye is a goner came home and it was all deflated

 

[The new fish on the block]

I think I would get aggressive at this point.

Do a water change to get the copper back to the appropriate level first. Then, give another 90-minute rally bath to all of the fish and dose the QT with kanaplex + metroplex + furan-2, in addition to the copper.

You’ll want to run ALL three, together for 14 days.

The furan-2 is dosed daily. The metro/kanaplex will be dosed every 48 hours after 25% water change (make sure copper is in the bucket before it hits the tank) Dose the metroplex in the higher range - 2 scoops per 10 gallons.

Add as much water movement as possible. An airstone and a powerhead aimed directly at the surface.

This combination of treatments will cover ich, velvet, brook, uronema, and bacterial infections.

Once you’ve finished 14 days, I’d highly suggest setting up a second sterile QT (med-free) and transferring all fish from the current tank to that one.

If there are still symptoms of infection, you may need to run a more aggressive course of antibiotics in the second QT without copper. NFG is preferable, but Triple Sulfa + Furan-2 make a decent substitute if you aren’t able to get the NFG.

I have metro but it expired March of this year can I still use it?

 

[ngoodermuth]

I have metro but it expired March of this year can I still use it?

Eh, it’s probably ok in that it doesn’t “go bad” but since you really need the metro to work at full strength, in case it does turn out to be brook... I’d only use it for as long as it takes to get a fresh container.

 

[The new fish on the block]

Ok, so I got the copper level down to 2.35 ppm and all of the fish have drastically changed and are active swimming around the QT

 

[The new fish on the block]

Ok, so I came home and saw my wrasse swimming at the top of the tank with his head kinda bobbing out of the water. Right now I have him in an Acriflavine bath. And thing else I should do? @ngoodermuth , @Frtdrmrose7

 

[Frtdrmrose7]

Do you have an ammonia badge in the tank? How are you aerating the water? What treatment are you running right now?

 

[The new fish on the block]

Eh, it’s probably ok in that it doesn’t “go bad” but since you really need the metro to work at full strength, in case it does turn out to be brook... I’d only use it for as long as it takes to get a fresh container.

Ok I put the wrasse back into Qt and she’s just swimming erratically and upside down I also noticed a big lump on her stomach

 

[The new fish on the block]

Do you have an ammonia badge in the tank? How are you aerating the water? What treatment are you running right now?

Yes it shows no ammonia, I also have 2 airstones running at the moment, and I’m treating with copper, Kanaplex and metroplex

 

[Frtdrmrose7]

Does that lump coincide with his anus? Does it appear to be on the anus? Have you seen him poop lately?

 

[The new fish on the block]

Yes, and I haven’t seen him poop lately.

 

[Frtdrmrose7]

Yes, and I haven’t seen him poop lately.

Could be severe constipation and the start of a prolapsed rectum. Is he still eating? If so boil a pea and skin it. Try to get him to eat the pea innards even if you mix with mysis or something.

 

[Frtdrmrose7]

Yes, and I haven’t seen him poop lately.

You can also 1 Tablespoon of pure USP Epsom salts per 5G to try to help things move along.

 

[ngoodermuth]

Gosh, you are really having a bad run with these guys... have you fed medicated food at all? Leopards are notorious for intestinal parasites, could explain the constipation/prolapse...

 

[The new fish on the block]

Could be severe constipation and the start of a prolapsed rectum. Is he still eating? If so boil a pea and skin it. Try to get him to eat the pea innards even if you mix with mysis or something.

I havent seen'em eat in a couple of days, and by the looks of things I dont he would be able to get it down, he just looks so week. I really don't know if he's gonna make it...

Gosh, you are really having a bad run with these guys... have you fed medicated food at all? Leopards are notorious for intestinal parasites, could explain the constipation/prolapse...

Yes I am, its the worst out break ive ever had, I dont know defenitvely whats happening. I was able to get a fresh bottle of metroplex so Im going to continue dosing it along with kanaplex until i can get my hands on the other stuff.

P.s. Thank you all for your help, it means a lot!

 

[Frtdrmrose7]

I havent seen'em eat in a couple of days, and by the looks of things I dont he would be able to get it down, he just looks so week. I really don't know if he's gonna make it...



Yes I am, its the worst out break ive ever had, I dont know defenitvely whats happening. I was able to get a fresh bottle of metroplex so Im going to continue dosing it along with kanaplex until i can get my hands on the other stuff.

P.s. Thank you all for your help, it means a lot!

If he’s not eating try the Epsom salts it can’t hurt to give it a shot

 

[The new fish on the block]

If he’s not eating try the Epsom salts it can’t hurt to give it a shot

I just checked the tank and he has passed

 

[Frtdrmrose7]

I just checked the tank and he has passed

Ugh, I’m sorry for your loss

 

[ngoodermuth]

I’m sorry