Which tank size is best for a newbie? :)

+1 125 4x2x25" Width is very important in a reef tank to fit the rocks you want to mount corals on and still have open space for fish to swim. I currently have a 55 gallon (12" wide) and it is very difficult. A 75 or 90 is 18" wide which gives you a little more room but 24" would be great. Personally I prefer 4 or 8 foot tanks for equipment. Lighting seems to be standardized at 4 foot so they produce more bulbs of that size which makes them cheaper. For example, many places sell 48" bulbs for the same price as 36" (T5 and VHO). 5 ft bulbs are almost twice the price and there are no 6 ft bulbs so you must buy twice as many 3 foot to cover the same area. 4 or 6 wide T5's becomes 8 or 12 36" for a six footer. I believe metal halide covers 24" X 24" so two fixtures on a 4' X 2' tanks would be perfect instead of three on a 6 foot. I just like even numbers and the powerheads I use will reach all the way across a four foot tank but with one on each end the flow meets in the middle and creates a lot of good turbulence. I would need another in the middle to get the same effect on a six foot tank. Don't get me wrong, I love the look of a six footer when we have club meetings in members homes but I would prefer an 8 footer like a 240 (8X2X2) for the reasons I mentioned if I was going longer than 4 foot.
 
The fact that you are doing research ahead of time is great. This will avoid spending money on items that you just get rid of down the road. I agree with the others on decide what you want to do with the tank and your stocking plans. I had my new tank built around a fish that I want; and did my aquascaping so I had a place up high on a pedestal for an anemone to help keep it from wondering. Plumbing is pretty easy just look over a few people build thread and you should get a good idea of what it takes. Good luck with your build.
 
As for what I am planning on stocking.. I am loving the look of corals, so that will be a focus in the tank. I have also wanted a Hippo Tang for years (yes because of Finding Nemo) :bigsmile: But now I am worried about lighting. Are LEDs good enough for coral? I dont think I want MH because of living in a smaller house in FL with summer approaching, might send my AC bill through the roof :o ( Or so I hear) I am so confused as what to do... Grr...
 
I started with BIOCUBE 29. Relatively cheap and easy setup. If you like the hobby you can always upgrade later.
 
Yes, LED is GREAT for coral, if you have enough of them. Halide do produce more heat then LED or T5, but they are less expensive at start up, but may cost more over the long haul in energy use.

I am really looking forward to my first 24" wide tank, as the tank I am setting up is 36x24x22t. I am also planning this to be an SPS tank, lit by LED. Not sure which LED yet, but I am leaning towards Ecotech Radion.

One thing I have learned for sure, and without a doubt, it is cheaper to buy the BETTER stuff first then it is to buy cheap and replace later. Doing your research before the purchase is a big step, and a good thing!
 
OK so I know I have been talking about a big tank and yadda yadda yadda... BUT... I found a 29g BioCube and stand on sale for half off at Petsmart... So guess what I did... Yep I bought it... I have the sand and live rock and water in there now waiting for the sand to settle some before turning on the pump... I Guess if I can get this thing to work and keep it working then I will be definitely ready for a large tank when I find the right one on Craigslist... So now I am officially a saltwater aquarist (even if it is just a nano reef)... So excited to start with corals!! :bigsmile: I figure I can use the BioCube as a frag tank when I eventually go to a big tank so it isnt exactly a waste of money. But when people see all the tanks in my house (56g African Cichlid tank, 26g Brackish Figure 8 Puffer Tank, 10g Nursery tank), I am sure I will look like the crazy aquarium guy.. :roll: Oh well... So I will be looking for ideas and help in the coming weeks! Thanks for all the advice thus far everyone!
 
OK so I know I have been talking about a big tank and yadda yadda yadda... BUT... I found a 29g BioCube and stand on sale for half off at Petsmart... So guess what I did... Yep I bought it... I have the sand and live rock and water in there now waiting for the sand to settle some before turning on the pump... I Guess if I can get this thing to work and keep it working then I will be definitely ready for a large tank when I find the right one on Craigslist... So now I am officially a saltwater aquarist (even if it is just a nano reef)... So excited to start with corals!! :bigsmile: I figure I can use the BioCube as a frag tank when I eventually go to a big tank so it isnt exactly a waste of money. But when people see all the tanks in my house (56g African Cichlid tank, 26g Brackish Figure 8 Puffer Tank, 10g Nursery tank), I am sure I will look like the crazy aquarium guy.. :roll: Oh well... So I will be looking for ideas and help in the coming weeks! Thanks for all the advice thus far everyone!

Good deal. I have a 29 Bio cube I use as a frag/qt tank. Keep the updates coming

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OK so I know I have been talking about a big tank and yadda yadda yadda... BUT... I found a 29g BioCube and stand on sale for half off at Petsmart... So guess what I did... Yep I bought it... I have the sand and live rock and water in there now waiting for the sand to settle some before turning on the pump... I Guess if I can get this thing to work and keep it working then I will be definitely ready for a large tank when I find the right one on Craigslist... So now I am officially a saltwater aquarist (even if it is just a nano reef)... So excited to start with corals!! :bigsmile: I figure I can use the BioCube as a frag tank when I eventually go to a big tank so it isnt exactly a waste of money. But when people see all the tanks in my house (56g African Cichlid tank, 26g Brackish Figure 8 Puffer Tank, 10g Nursery tank), I am sure I will look like the crazy aquarium guy.. :roll: Oh well... So I will be looking for ideas and help in the coming weeks! Thanks for all the advice thus far everyone!

Sweet!!!! Now you really are one of us. If anyone ask tell them the addiction made you do it. Now you need to start a build thread with lot of pics. :clap2:
 
Sweet!!!! Now you really are one of us. If anyone ask tell them the addiction made you do it. Now you need to start a build thread with lot of pics. :clap2:

That will come once the sand settles... it looks like a big mess currently... Is the pump going to be alright if turned on while the sand is still settling? I assume most of the big particles will be caught by the filter pad or the sponge filter but I am worried that any sand particles will ruin the impeller of the pump. I say this cuz I had a sand bottom in my cichlid tank (big mistake with those darn fish that like to move the substrate every 5 seconds) and I went through easily 3 filters not knowing the impeller was being burnt out by the sand getting inside it (I switched to river rock soon after... Take that cichlids!)
 
After all that, you still went with the under 40 tank. You will not regret it as the nano tanks are very popular right now. Then when you have it under your belt, you can get the big tank. Well done sir.
 
After all that, you still went with the under 40 tank. You will not regret it as the nano tanks are very popular right now. Then when you have it under your belt, you can get the big tank. Well done sir.

Well I was doing research on tanks online today and somehow saw that petsmart had biocubes (which I never saw them actually carrying) so I called them just for the heck of it and they did have a 29g for 150$... half off.. Sooooo I figured why not... It was only 150 plus another 100 for the stand... And I also figured it would get the bug of wanting a SW reef tank out of me for a bit so I could concentrate on this tank and still get corals which I have been wanting forever... And like I said before it would be a good frag tank when I do get my large tank (Craigslist is where I am looking, but I want a decent tank with a stand and hopefully canopy for a good price which can take a while to find. I have only found smaller tanks, damaged tanks in need of repair or only tanks no stands and my carpentry skills are at a negative lol) So this little guy will keep me busy until then :bigsmile:
 
We are all "crazy aquarium guys" and girls, it comes naturally when you see the diversity of life from the sea that you can enjoy in your home. I am the same way with multiple tanks, when I get all the tanks set up that I have accumulated for next to nothing over the last couple of years my house will look like a pet store like it did 20 years ago when I was deep into freshwater. As you already know from your other tanks, you can always find a use for one more smaller tank when you upgrade.

The best advice I can share is to find a local marine aquarium club and join. Ours has meetings most of the time in members homes and new people get to see all different kinds of set ups and equipment use (there is no one "right" way) to decide what they want. The diversity of people in the hobby will give you the opportunity to meet some who are very successful financially and can afford top of the line set ups as well as those like me who do it with very little expense but avoid the "junk" that doesn't work well. Continue to post here regularly and take advantage of the experience available at a national level but get involved locally for hands on help you can see in person. Hopefully you will meet someone with a set up similar to what you want that can become your mentor.

Local clubs usually have a selling forum on their site that you can find used equipment on for a fair price from trusted members. They will also have postings from people that drift in and out to sell the junk you have found on craigs list or good used stuff that they want too much money for so be careful as you already have been. There are good people in this hobby who join a club to socialize and help others that are new but there are also some who join with an attitude of what can I get out of these people and not give anything back.

My experience with buying used has shown me that very few "complete set ups" sell well. Sometimes they are bought by new people which can work out for everyone involved if it is a good set up with no problems. You will find deals "$2800 invested, $1500 for everything" that sound great if you were planning to pay new prices. Maybe in todays market it is only worth $1000 (even new stuff is very low cost right now with the economy) and maybe the person got into the hobby recently and is getting out due to failure caused by buying junk equipment you will have to replace. The rock may be covered with aiptasia or other pests that will take a lot of work for you to turn into a nice tank. Most tanks end up getting parted out. Experienced reefers will buy only the good equipment if the price is fair and leave the tank since they already have one. There are a lot of tanks and stands left over out there that can be bought alone for very little money. You can then shop for quality used or new equipment to put together exactly what you want.

There is a lot of "brand new in the box" powerheads etc. out there that people in the hobby (who change their mind a lot) are getting rid of. There are also things out there being sold because they have worn out and only run at half speed and the owner bought new instead of repairing what they had. I have bought BNIB $70 powerheads for $35 but before I knew better I bought $30 used for $10 that are only good for mixing saltwater. New technology BNIB stuff costs more but is worth it if you were going to buy new anyway. An MP40ES is $465 on line and you can find them for $400 or a little less BNIB not half price like I have found on smaller older technology.

Good luck with your new adventure and you made a good choice on the small tank to learn on. It would have worked out fine if you had started bigger due to your research and questions showing that you are the type of person that will be successful long term no matter what size. You will get a lot of enjoyment out of your new tank as long as you continue the patience you have shown.
 
We are all "crazy aquarium guys" and girls, it comes naturally when you see the diversity of life from the sea that you can enjoy in your home. I am the same way with multiple tanks, when I get all the tanks set up that I have accumulated for next to nothing over the last couple of years my house will look like a pet store like it did 20 years ago when I was deep into freshwater. As you already know from your other tanks, you can always find a use for one more smaller tank when you upgrade.

The best advice I can share is to find a local marine aquarium club and join. Ours has meetings most of the time in members homes and new people get to see all different kinds of set ups and equipment use (there is no one "right" way) to decide what they want. The diversity of people in the hobby will give you the opportunity to meet some who are very successful financially and can afford top of the line set ups as well as those like me who do it with very little expense but avoid the "junk" that doesn't work well. Continue to post here regularly and take advantage of the experience available at a national level but get involved locally for hands on help you can see in person. Hopefully you will meet someone with a set up similar to what you want that can become your mentor.

Local clubs usually have a selling forum on their site that you can find used equipment on for a fair price from trusted members. They will also have postings from people that drift in and out to sell the junk you have found on craigs list or good used stuff that they want too much money for so be careful as you already have been. There are good people in this hobby who join a club to socialize and help others that are new but there are also some who join with an attitude of what can I get out of these people and not give anything back.

My experience with buying used has shown me that very few "complete set ups" sell well. Sometimes they are bought by new people which can work out for everyone involved if it is a good set up with no problems. You will find deals "$2800 invested, $1500 for everything" that sound great if you were planning to pay new prices. Maybe in todays market it is only worth $1000 (even new stuff is very low cost right now with the economy) and maybe the person got into the hobby recently and is getting out due to failure caused by buying junk equipment you will have to replace. The rock may be covered with aiptasia or other pests that will take a lot of work for you to turn into a nice tank. Most tanks end up getting parted out. Experienced reefers will buy only the good equipment if the price is fair and leave the tank since they already have one. There are a lot of tanks and stands left over out there that can be bought alone for very little money. You can then shop for quality used or new equipment to put together exactly what you want.

There is a lot of "brand new in the box" powerheads etc. out there that people in the hobby (who change their mind a lot) are getting rid of. There are also things out there being sold because they have worn out and only run at half speed and the owner bought new instead of repairing what they had. I have bought BNIB $70 powerheads for $35 but before I knew better I bought $30 used for $10 that are only good for mixing saltwater. New technology BNIB stuff costs more but is worth it if you were going to buy new anyway. An MP40ES is $465 on line and you can find them for $400 or a little less BNIB not half price like I have found on smaller older technology.

Good luck with your new adventure and you made a good choice on the small tank to learn on. It would have worked out fine if you had started bigger due to your research and questions showing that you are the type of person that will be successful long term no matter what size. You will get a lot of enjoyment out of your new tank as long as you continue the patience you have shown.

Thanks... It should be fun setting this one up. I plan on modifying it tho since I have read about all the people who have done so and love it. So I am thinking of taking out the bio balls and putting in the three tier insert and refugium with submersible light from inTank... Thoughts from anyone who has or once had a biocube?

Also I am definitely looking for used with a good price... I have seen some larger tanks with a complete set up for around 400-600 on Craigslist but they sold so quick that I didn't respond in time, so that is what I am holding out for...
 
Congrats on the biocube :D I think that waiting until you find what you are wanting for the larger tank is a smart choice and until you find it the biocube will give you the chance to get started in sw. I agreee that keeping an eye on local forums is a good idea and if you can get involved in a local club I would do so. Also with the biocube you might consider getting involved with the nano in 90 contest that is taking place ;)
 
Congrats on the biocube :D I think that waiting until you find what you are wanting for the larger tank is a smart choice and until you find it the biocube will give you the chance to get started in sw. I agreee that keeping an eye on local forums is a good idea and if you can get involved in a local club I would do so. Also with the biocube you might consider getting involved with the nano in 90 contest that is taking place ;)

Yeah I checked out that thread... Some of those nanos are crazy... And this is only a biocube... They are doing all their own plumbing and sumps, I am not even gonna try... Lol Plus I wanna not go crazy from the get-go... I wanna enjoy adding a coral here and a coral there... But knowing me I will go a little crazy once it's cycled and I can put livestock in... :roll:
 
its sad to see someone buy a small tank setup just to sell it at 1/4 the price they pd a few months later to upgrade
75g or a 48" 120g are probably the best all around tanks
 
I'm sure someone said it but my advise is to go as big as you can afford to.. you will be glad u did... the only regrets I ever hear about are "i wish i would have gone bigger"... night tanks sound expensive but you don't have to fill it right away.. for example a 6'125 one of my favorites.. lights would kick you in the butt right away but you can cycle the tank with 30 lbs of rock if you want... just don't ever out do your biological filtration with excessive fish... I started my first reef tank.. (6'125) with 50 lbs LR and no sump.. I've been adding since.. good luck.. get ready to fall face first into the addiction.. :D
 

IF YOU HAD TO TAKE A REEFING EXAM, WOULD YOU PASS?

  • Yes!

    Votes: 32 45.7%
  • Not yet, but I have one that I want to buy in mind!

    Votes: 9 12.9%
  • No.

    Votes: 26 37.1%
  • Other (please explain).

    Votes: 3 4.3%
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