White patch

jp_75 · Apr 11, 2017

Hi Do you guys know what that can be? I have had him almost 5 week 1 week observation, 1 Prazi,2 Cupramine and this week Prazi again. These came in the morning....

4FordFamily · Apr 11, 2017

Oh wow that's a very serious bacterial infection, IMO.

You'll need metroplex, furan 2, and kanaplex and to treat for at least ten days.

@Humblefish @melypr1985 @Brew12

Humblefish · Apr 11, 2017

4FordFamily said:
Oh wow that's a very serious bacterial infection, IMO.

You'll need metroplex, furan 2, and kanaplex and to treat for at least ten days.

@Humblefish @melypr1985 @Brew12

+1 The three medications listed above will be your best bet.

However, ANY antibiotic will be better than nothing at this point. There are more listed here and also here by Seachem at the bottom. Those can be food soaked or dosed directly into the water (you will want to do the latter.)

And if you can find it, an acriflavine bath (ex. Ruby Reef Rally) might help as well: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/acriflavine.282887/

jp_75 · Apr 11, 2017

Thx! How long should i threat them for? Also,can they be mixed with Prazi? I have 2 more days of it...

jp_75 · Apr 11, 2017

Ok, found info on long and if i can rjun it it with Prazi. So, after 10 days let's say it gets better so what i do next? Should i keep them a week for observation?

Humblefish · Apr 11, 2017

jp_75 said:
Ok, found info on long and if i can rjun it it with Prazi. So, after 10 days let's say it gets better so what i do next? Should i keep them a week for observation?

I wouldn't put him in the DT until he looks fully headed. Also, don't be surprised if that fish requires longer than 10 days worth of antibiotic treatment. He looks to be in pretty bad shape, so it must be an aggressive infection.

jp_75 · Apr 11, 2017

Any idea what can cause that bad infection? Also, should i be worry about other fish in QT?

jp_75 · Apr 11, 2017

Another thing what bothers me is: Should i threat new fish with antibiotics right away? I am so glad it al happened in QT! Thx again for being helpful!

Humblefish · Apr 11, 2017

jp_75 said:
Any idea what can cause that bad infection? Also, should i be worry about other fish in QT?

Odds are he came in with it, but his immune system was fighting it off which is why you never saw symptoms. Fighting it off ... but apparently never 100% knocked it out. So then when you dosed copper & prazi (both are immunosuppressants) it tipped things back in the harmful bacteria's favor.

jp_75 said:
Another thing what bothers me is: Should i threat new fish with antibiotics right away? I am so glad it al happened in QT! Thx again for being helpful!

As I'm sure you deduced from my immunosuppressant statement above, all medications are necessary evils. Side effects exist regardless of whether we're talking about medications for humans or animals. So IMO; they should be used only as needed. Unfortunately, the prevalence of Marine Velvet Disease makes the use of copper or CP almost mandatory nowadays; it wasn't like this just a few years ago.

melypr1985 · Apr 11, 2017

Agreed with everything Humble said. That looks like a terrible infection. Best of luck!

jp_75 · Apr 11, 2017

Fish is dead! Should i be worried about other in QT? Looks like there is nothing on it...Would you guys still put those meds just in case? Thank you again for all help

4FordFamily · Apr 11, 2017

jp_75 said:
Fish is dead! Should i be worried about other in QT? Looks like there is nothing on it...Would you guys still put those meds just in case? Thank you again for all help

Personally... as aggressive as that infection looks, id rather be safe than sorry. Be sure you have great oxygen exchange in the tank with all of these meds. Bubbler or simply aiming a powerhead at the surface will more than suffice.

Also, I am sorry for your loss. I won't lie though, based on the photo I knew that fish was a goner. It needed treatment days ago.