Why???

easternreefer · May 17, 2017

sorry about the clik bait title..
I have a small rant...
why is it that the first reaction when we see something in the tank that we do not recognize for 90% of the people in this hobby is HOW DO I GET RID OF IT!
annoys the crap out of me.. We have pieces of the least understood environment in the world in our tanks and most peoples first reaction with anything new is to see if they should kill it.
always amazes me...
jmho

saltyfilmfolks · May 17, 2017

Same reason folks take laptops, phones, satellite tv and Platstation on their trip to Yellowstone. They want to enjoy nature.

ThunderGoose · May 17, 2017

Don't tell The Husband but after my last scheduled fish get out of QT I'm planning to convert it to a nano tank called "hitchhiker's cove" - get some live sank and rock from kp and hope for interesting hitchhikers. (Can you say Mantis shrrrrimmmmp)

easternreefer · May 17, 2017

Tahoe61 · May 17, 2017

easternreefer said:
sorry about the clik bait title..
I have a small rant...
why is it that the first reaction when we see something in the tank that we do not recognize for 90% of the people in this hobby is HOW DO I GET RID OF IT!
annoys the crap out of me.. We have pieces of the least understood environment in the world in our tanks and most peoples first reaction with anything new is to see if they should kill it.
always amazes me...
jmho

I feel the same way at times.

Reality is that the vast majority of hobbyist stay in the hobby for a few years only. They create a box of water and for what ever reason want the box to only contain what they intentionally added, it almost like they want to sterilize the tank.
In their defense they are bombarded with products and information designed and created to kill, remove or prevent considered pest. In searching the forums they read horror stories.
Bristle worms are judged on their appearance only not their role in the healthy bio-diverse tank. When in doubt throw it out is not a rule I promote unless the it's an animal that is going to cause immediate harm to the system or the process of future removal is daunting.

saltyfilmfolks · May 17, 2017

ThunderGoose said:
Don't tell The Husband but after my last scheduled fish get out of QT I'm planning to convert it to a nano tank called "hitchhiker's cove" - get some live sank and rock from kp and hope for interesting hitchhikers. (Can you say Mantis shrrrrimmmmp)

I just turned down a tank full of LR funk and junk and pistols and clams(100's), ugly zoas (100's) and lots of bad crabs shrimps and OMG's. Only because my garage malfunctioned and I cant get my spare 10g out.

saltyfilmfolks · May 17, 2017

Tahoe61 said:
I feel the same way at times.

Reality is that the vast majority of hobbyist stay in the hobby for a few years only. They create a box of water and for what ever reason want the box to only contain what they intentionally added, it almost like they want to sterilize the tank.
In their defense they are bombarded with products and information designed and created to kill, remove or prevent considered pest. In searching the forums they read horror stories.
Bristle worms are judged on their appearance only not their role in the healthy bio-diverse tank. When in doubt throw it out is not a rule I promote unless the it's an animal that is going to cause immediate harm to the system or the process of future removal is daunting.

I'll add, we do have many folks who don't know what a barnacle is. So its really a learning curve for many.

ThunderGoose · May 17, 2017

easternreefer said:
KP?

Kp Aquatics in Florida (kpaquatics.com). They don't offer a lot of stuff but the quality is always good and they have some things that aren't commonly available.

easternreefer · May 17, 2017

I will look them up and see what they have..

happyhourhero · May 17, 2017

I think the biggest problem in the whole hobby is knee jerk reactions. Probably responsible for more loss of life than all the diseases combined.

White spot on fish! ::tears apart tank and moves all fish to new QT::
PH is low! :: pours buffer into tank::
Anemone moved! :: pulls rock, pries anemone off rock with paint scraper, puts back on rock it moved off of and stuck a silverside in mouth::
Etc

chefjpaul · May 17, 2017

Im actually looking for bristle worms and such. The New tank is way to sterile, boring and just doesn't feel right.

ThunderGoose · May 17, 2017

chefjpaul said:
Im actually looking for bristle worms and such. The New tank is way to sterile, boring and just doesn't feel right.

Inland aquatics carries bristle worms and other hitchhikers under the Detritivore tab.

Yeah, I'm a total nutter who wants a functional ecosystem in my living room.

Maritimer · May 17, 2017

<-- Is a member of the same nutter crew.

~Bruce

jah4good · May 17, 2017

It bothers me too. It is quite alarming to see some of these creatures for the first time. I have adopted the rule that unless its obviously harming something let it be and watch. If you see one you probably have a few already. I found this cool chart that listed most hitchhikers with pictures and categorized them and what they did. I lost the link, sorry guys

Maritimer · May 18, 2017

Was it this one?

"The Hitchhikers Guide" is a terrific resource, prepared by our own Lionfish Lair: http://www.lionfishlair.com/hitchhikers-guide/

~Bruce

jah4good · May 18, 2017

Maritimer said:
Was it this one?

"The Hitchhikers Guide" is a terrific resource, prepared by our own Lionfish Lair: http://www.lionfishlair.com/hitchhikers-guide/

~Bruce

No, but that ones better! Thanks!

saltyfilmfolks · May 18, 2017

Another good one.
http://chucksaddiction.thefishestate.net/hitchhikers.html

jah4good · May 18, 2017

saltyfilmfolks said:
Another good one.
http://chucksaddiction.thefishestate.net/hitchhikers.html

Awesomeness!

BrettMallette · May 18, 2017

I dont even want to know what all is in my 10+ year old uncured liverock. It also makes me think twice everytime i get that knee jerk reaction to move something just cuz im bored and want to muck around in my tank. I also wouldnt have as easy of a tank to maintain if all those unknown critters werent there. If it meanz i lose a frag here n there so be it.

Bruce Burnett · May 19, 2017

Tahoe61 said:
I feel the same way at times.

Reality is that the vast majority of hobbyist stay in the hobby for a few years only. They create a box of water and for what ever reason want the box to only contain what they intentionally added, it almost like they want to sterilize the tank.
In their defense they are bombarded with products and information designed and created to kill, remove or prevent considered pest. In searching the forums they read horror stories.
Bristle worms are judged on their appearance only not their role in the healthy bio-diverse tank. When in doubt throw it out is not a rule I promote unless the it's an animal that is going to cause immediate harm to the system or the process of future removal is daunting.

I don't know anyone that went in the hobby for only a couple years. I have been in the hobby for 40+ years but not deep like some who have made it there life. Only things I ever wanted to get out of my tank was a mantis, unwanted algae and cyano. Bristle worms are not bad and if you control your food the population does not get high.