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Good catch! I'm honestly not sure either about vinyl flex to pvc, but I can't say I've seen anyone use it just with the glue. Something to keep an eye on!
Will this work? Plumbing a tank . . OYE!
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Good catch! I'm honestly not sure either about vinyl flex to pvc, but I can't say I've seen anyone use it just with the glue. Something to keep an eye on!
Flippers4pups
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Yep, PVC purple primer softens the PVC and allows the glue to fuse pieces together. PVC primer won't touch vinyl and allow the glue to fuse the pieces together.
In @Mini Coop 's situation, a slip adapter to female thread, then a threaded male barbed fitting to the vinyl tubing would be the only way to make it work.
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Yep, PVC purple primer softens the PVC and allows the glue to fuse pieces together. PVC primer won't touch vinyl and allow the glue to fuse the pieces together.
In @Mini Coop 's situation, a slip adapter to female thread, then a threaded male barbed fitting to the vinyl tubing would be the only way to make it work.
Ok - so - I didn't want to use flex tubing anyway - - - sooooo . . . if I cut the pipe under the FS holder, and could slip it out basically inside the sock, and pull out the sock, then I could just plumb everything above with PVC and not have to worry about it - like what @Idoc was saying.
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I would hard plumb it from the true union all the way down. Would require another 45* elbow, but yes, I'd do that for sure.
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I have to get another 45 for the other side anyway - I will just add it to my list of stuff for trip number 351 to the store!
HAHA! I don't mind if I know it is going to be done to my best ability and done right!
I would definitely put some full flow hose barbs for the tubing to be attached to the unions and put some hose clamps on them. I know it’s a drain but if bad things can happen, they will happen. If the tubing comes out of the union on the top or the bottom the water will be everywhere. That would be bad. [emoji24]
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I have to get another 45 for the other side anyway - I will just add it to my list of stuff for trip number 351 to the store!
Hard plumbing it is the best solution.
Now something else to think about. I would secure the plumbing to the basement wall. Using a pipe clamp around the pipe to keep it secure and take some of the weight off the bulkheads above.
You could just clamp them up on the floor joists. It's a good idea to do. If you say bump the plumbing and it's moved in one direction. Keeps stress off the bulkheads. Food for thought.[/QUOTE]
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Ok - so I got everything before knowing exactly how everything would work . . . but it is going ok. I got the filter sock holders with the pipe that goes down into them to lessen the salt splash. Well, now plumbing it presents its challenges.
SOOOOOO - - - -PVC into a union into 1" Flex pipe, into another union, into a tiny piece of pvc attached to the pipe that goes into the filter sock. So the idea is when I need to change the filter sock, I can turn the drain off (ball valves at the top), undo the union, move the flex pipe to the side, change the sock and be on my merry way. I know this is not the simplest option, but will it work ok?
Just looking out for you, so please take it that way.
The drains are close to a wall socket on your unfinished wall next to the sump. Try putting something up between the sump and wall to protect the electric from a accident. Better safe than sorry.
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NOTE OF CAUTION....I DID NOT READ ALL THE RESPONSES....just the OP with a union into a filter sock. So I apologize if already stated.
A union is not needed. Simply friction fit the pipe entering the the filter sock. I've been running mine this way from day one. No glue, just shove the pipe into the last fitting and let it run. When you need to change the sock, just pull this pipe off. No glue (0r Union) needed because there is no pressure on this connection.
A union is not needed. Simply friction fit the pipe entering the the filter sock. I've been running mine this way from day one. No glue, just shove the pipe into the last fitting and let it run. When you need to change the sock, just pull this pipe off. No glue (0r Union) needed because there is no pressure on this connection.
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Another good tip is to dry fit the hard pvc and get it how you want it where everything lines up just right before the glue comes out. I have over 100 feet of pvc in my whole basement fishroom setup, I know the plumbing sections at hd and lowes by heart! It's amazing how fast all those little pieces add up and it never fails your always at least one short!
Anyways back to subject at hand, dry fit to get the all the pieces where you want them, then I take a sharpie and mark all the angled couplers. Those 45s can get ya anywhere you need to go, but when they are off by just a bit it can be a pain... My glue always dried faster than I realized I was off by a couple degrees. Lol
Anyways back to subject at hand, dry fit to get the all the pieces where you want them, then I take a sharpie and mark all the angled couplers. Those 45s can get ya anywhere you need to go, but when they are off by just a bit it can be a pain... My glue always dried faster than I realized I was off by a couple degrees. Lol
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Not the best picture, but here's a picture of my drain coming into my sock....friction fit, and now pulled off.
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[/QUOTE]Hard plumbing it is the best solution.
Now something else to think about. I would secure the plumbing to the basement wall. Using a pipe clamp around the pipe to keep it secure and take some of the weight off the bulkheads above.
You could just clamp them up on the floor joists. It's a good idea to do. If you say bump the plumbing and it's moved in one direction. Keeps stress off the bulkheads. Food for thought.
Absolutely! I bought them today, actually. We didn't do this yet, but had planned to! We are just dry-fitting everything and not securing anything until we know it is all fit right! THANK YOU FOR THE ADVICE!!!
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Just looking out for you, so please take it that way.
The drains are close to a wall socket on your unfinished wall next to the sump. Try putting something up between the sump and wall to protect the electric from a accident. Better safe than sorry.
Yes! Thank you for all of the advice. That's why I love this group! I wouldn't have posted if I didn't really want advice!
And yes - I am going to take the advice and move the electric outlet up a couple feet on the post, plus will be putting up a board of some sort between as well. THANK YOU! bought some more 45 elbows so I can hard plumb the rest.
I never guessed the stinking filter sock would be my biggest struggle! HAHA
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Excellent advice on marking the angle of the 45's! I never would have done it! GREAT little tip!
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Lol Yes, with all my meticulous planning on my current system, I still made numerous trips back and forth to the hardware store! I feel your pain. Lol
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Lol Yes, with all my meticulous planning on my current system, I still made numerous trips back and forth to the hardware store! I feel your pain. Lol
Yes! Just went today . . . again . . . and purchased WAY more 45 elbows and wall brackets than I will need. And found yesterday that my kessil doesn't have the screws in it (one of them) - so Now I have to go to the store . . . AGIAN because I didn't bring it with me
Oh well. . . thank goodness there is a place about 5 minutes from my house. lol
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I agree that the glue joint between the flex and PVC probably wont hold very long. You could get a barbed fitting to attach the flex to with a clamp. Just a thought. You could also delete the flex tubing and just put two unions in and remove pipe when changing sock.
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Hey - what is the connection that you used for that?Not the best picture, but here's a picture of my drain coming into my sock....friction fit, and now pulled off.
