Yellow and Diamond Tail Wrasse in QT

Heavymman · Mar 26, 2019

I am currently treating /QTing a Yellow and Diamond Tail Wrasse. Salinity is matches with store (1.025) and 1.0PPM of CP since it’s the first day of QT. Both had a 5 min FW dip and when returned the Yellow Wrasse buried himself in the small container of sand but the Diamond Tail is swimming and gulping at the surface even with the lights out. I did not perform a Ruby bath because I didn’t see any symptoms of velvet or brooke.

Should I be concerned or is this just normal acclimating to copper for a wrasse(my first wrasses QTing). Also, I do have an air stone and powerhead facing the surface.

HotRocks · Mar 26, 2019

Heavymman said:
I am currently treating /QTing a Yellow and Diamond Tail Wrasse. Salinity is matches with store (1.025) and 1.0PPM of CP since it’s the first day of QT. Both had a 5 min FW dip and when returned the Yellow Wrasse buried himself in the small container of sand but the Diamond Tail is swimming and gulping at the surface even with the lights out. I did not perform a Ruby bath because I didn’t see any symptoms of velvet or brooke.

Should I be concerned or is this just normal acclimating to copper for a wrasse(my first wrasses QTing). Also, I do have an air stone and powerhead facing the surface.

Did you use an airstone in the FW dip?

Heavymman · Mar 26, 2019

HotRocks said:
Did you use an airstone in the FW dip?

No

pecan2phat · Mar 26, 2019

I stopped doing FW dips prior to QT, I just treat with General Cure after the fish have been eating for a few days and followup with Chloroquine Phosphate.
While most will say and show that FW dips are easy and harmless, I have lost fish that just never recovered from the osmotic shock.

Heavymman · Mar 26, 2019

HotRocks said:
Did you use an airstone in the FW dip?

Anything I can do or did I kill him

HotRocks · Mar 26, 2019

Heavymman said:
Anything I can do or did I kill him

He might be ok, lights off and low stress let the fish rest.

Some fish do take a few hours to recover from a dip.

Heavymman · Mar 26, 2019

HotRocks said:
He might be ok, lights off and low stress let the fish rest.

Some fish do take a few hours to recover from a dip.

And I guess I shouldn’t force the yellow wrasse out of the container of sand? I will assess tomorrow, fingers crossed. Thank you

HotRocks · Mar 26, 2019

Heavymman said:
And I guess I shouldn’t force the yellow wrasse out of the container of sand? I will assess tomorrow, fingers crossed. Thank you

No definitely leave it be. You used RO water and had it up to temp correct? When you did the dip?

Heavymman · Mar 27, 2019

HotRocks said:
No definitely leave it be. You used RO water and had it up to temp correct? When you did the dip?

Yes, RODI and Temp same as qt

Frtdrmrose7 · Mar 27, 2019

Heavymman said:
Yes, RODI and Temp same as qt

Another tip for FW dips, just before you put the fish in splash a little tank water into the container to raise PH.

Heavymman · Mar 27, 2019

My wife said she was swimming around this morning thank god... I won’t make that mistake again.

How am I going to get the yellow wrasse to eat if she’s buried under the sand?

Frtdrmrose7 · Mar 27, 2019

Heavymman said:
My wife said she was swimming around this morning thank god... I won’t make that mistake again.

How am I going to get the yellow wrasse to eat if she’s buried under the sand?

Just give the wrasse time, it will come out. I’ve heard of them staying under the sand for a week or two. Digging it out will only cause more stress.

Heavymman · Mar 27, 2019

Frtdrmrose7 said:
Just give the wrasse time, it will come out. I’ve heard of them staying under the sand for a week or two. Digging it out will only cause more stress.

Will do, thank you

Heavymman · Mar 28, 2019

Ok good news is yellow is out of the sand....

But my diamond tail wrasse has something going on with its tail... can’t figure it out, here are some pics

Heavymman · Mar 28, 2019

Possible Brook? Can tell

Frtdrmrose7 · Mar 28, 2019

Heavymman said:
Ok good news is yellow is out of the sand....

But my diamond tail wrasse has something going on with its tail... can’t figure it out, here are some pics

That is a pretty advanced bacterial infection. I would recommend either NFG (Nitrofuracin Green) or the trifecta (Metro+Kanaplex +Furan 2) for 14 days and I would start sooner than later.

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/dosing-the-trifecta.386582/

Frtdrmrose7 · Mar 28, 2019

I can’t see brook in that pic mostly because of the spots on the glass. Either way if you dose the trifecta for the tail the Metro will cover brook also.

Heavymman said:
Possible Brook? Can tell

Heavymman · Mar 28, 2019

NFG with copper ok?

Heavymman · Mar 28, 2019

Ok only had furan-2 available, started dosing that.

Copper is at 1.44 and I think I will halt slowly raising the copper levels to treat for bacterial infection... or should I continue raising copper(no signs of velvet/ich)?

Frtdrmrose7 · Mar 28, 2019

Do you suspect brook? Are you able to see something we can’t? If so I would go the Metro route just to cover brook.

Heavymman said:
Ok only had furan-2 available, started dosing that.

Copper is at 1.44 and I think I will halt slowly raising the copper levels to treat for bacterial infection... or should I continue raising copper(no signs of velvet/ich)?

If you are at 1.44 therapeutic minimum for copper power is 1.50. You might as well bring it up.