150 gallon cycle almost done. Add a few fish?

I'd try to get some cover for him. Unless it's just my view from the photo, that tank could really use a handful of fake plants to make him feel slightly better. :) Search ebay and craigslist if budget is an issue. Get some that are nice and tall – at least 2-3 "plants" worth IMO.

Light-out isn't needed, but low-lights will be a little easier on him while he adjusts and while you bring in some added cover. ;)
 
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I'd try to get some cover for him. Unless it's just my view from the photo, that tank could really use a handful of fake plants to make him feel slightly better. :) Search ebay and craigslist if budget is an issue. Get some that are nice and tall – at least 2-3 "plants" worth IMO.

Light-out isn't needed, but low-lights will be a little easier on him while he adjusts and while you bring in some added cover. ;)

It hides under the rock at night, but this morning I found it just hanging out in one of the corners. So it's definitely feeling safer, but I did throw a pvc pipe in there just in case.
 
Most likely stress with the move. You can turn the lights on, really makes no difference IMO. Have you gotten him to eat yet?

Today will mark 1 week in QT. Foxface is active and eats a lot! I feel like he wants more food but I only feed once a day , scared of ammonia. I always test it and a few times showed a little light green on API so I added some Prime.
 
I'd say bring it down between 20 and 10 and you're all set :) But the lower you can get it the better

I've been changing the socks in the DT more often now (3-4 days) and it seems to be lowering my nitrates. At the same time the brown diatoms turned green and they are growing a lot. The dead rock has more on them. The live rock I had transferred from my other tank to here hardly has any algae after the CUC went through them. You think the CUC will take care of the long green algae? Kind of worrying me, but I guess this is part of the cycle. My other tank never had long green hair algae like this, maybe because I only had live rock. @crabs_mcjones
 
I've been changing the socks in the DT more often now (3-4 days) and it seems to be lowering my nitrates. At the same time the brown diatoms turned green and they are growing a lot. The dead rock has more on them. The live rock I had transferred from my other tank to here hardly has any algae after the CUC went through them. You think the CUC will take care of the long green algae? Kind of worrying me, but I guess this is part of the cycle. My other tank never had long green hair algae like this, maybe because I only had live rock. @crabs_mcjones
Sounds about right. The dry dead rock will developed more algae than the live rock will because the live rock has the bacteria bed already fully established in it. Sounds like you're on the right track :)
 
Sounds about right. The dry dead rock will developed more algae than the live rock will because the live rock has the bacteria bed already fully established in it. Sounds like you're on the right track :)

Should I do anything different to help? I have 25 CUC , 3 fish, and 1 coral. Maybe turn off the lights a bit? I plan to do monthly 21% water changes (30 gallons out of the 140 ).
 
Should I do anything different to help? I have 25 CUC , 3 fish, and 1 coral. Maybe turn off the lights a bit? I plan to do monthly 21% water changes (30 gallons out of the 140 ).
Nope, keep on truckin
 
Maybe pull off as much long algae as you can just to give the CUC as much of a leg up as you can.
 
If I want to add some medication in here should I remove the live rock? I have a small filter pad in the back, but not sure what will happen to ammonia levels if I remove the rock. General cure or metro would be used. @crabs_mcjones

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If I want to add some medication in here should I remove the live rock? I have a small filter pad in the back, but not sure what will happen to ammonia levels if I remove the rock. General cure or metro would be used. @crabs_mcjones

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Correct, if you ever want to use that rock for anything other than your quarantine take it out before running any kind of meds.
 
Correct, if you ever want to use that rock for anything other than your quarantine take it out before running any kind of meds.

Okay, but if I take it out is there any ammonia danger? The filter pad in the back is only 5 by 5 inches.
 
How is his behavior – any changes like flashing?

(It's hard to tell what you're referring to in the photo...can you kill your blue lights and/or use the flash on your camera?)

If you haven't ID'd any pests yet, why do you already know what you'd treat him with? o_O That's having the cart before the horse. ;)

Have you given him a freshwater dip at any point yet?

If you do suspect anything on him....be at least a little sure first, and then give him a freshwater dip. About 5 minutes...longer up to 15 minutes is ok if he seems to be cool with it. Sometimes little fish are more sensitive, so just pay attention. :)

BTW your quarantine tank is still way too barren to be no-stress.

I missed the corner-hiding comment earlier – that's not great, it's a sign of stress from the tank being too open. You'd hope to see swimming behavior instead and hiding among the cover in the tank vs in the corners. Some hiding can be normal, but corner hiding is not usual. Make sure the lights aren't very bright.

Adding some plastic plants would be the easiest way I can think of to give him some naturalistic cover. 1-3 plants should do it if they're good-sized compared to him, but if you don't have to pay much for them, go nuts and add several – he'll appreciate it!​

Rockin Meds
Concerns about the meds and the live rock are pretty well-founded and certainly well-intended :) :), but are also over-stated IMO. Especially in light of that being the tank's only real cover. (PVC alone doesn't cut it...especially not that one tiny piece.) Leave the rock in for best results. And if you're really afraid of it absorbing something (or whatever) then throw it away at the end or save it for QT-only usage. Both are legitimate options. But I'd keep it.

IMO the worst case scenario if you take care to remove the medicated water from the rock (maybe rinse 10 times or something) and place the rock into the display is that maybe it could have more algae problems than other rocks. Not a "real problem"....if that comes to pass, then remove the rock or handle the algae another way. Easy. :)

However, I'm not sure you'd even be able to notice the "medicated" rock compared to your dead rock.

I don't believe there's much if any chance at all of seeing actual effects from the medication you used in quarantine in your display tank.

Dilution alone would seem to be enough to kill that worry...

A dose consisting only of the residue of the med contained on live rock after 10 rinses, which is then diluted by the xxx gallons of seawater your display tank can't even be worth talking about, can it?

You can make the same considerations about efficacy (dosing) and dilution for any med you're considering....maybe you'll find some med that really is so nasty and foul that it really will ruin your rock and really can't even be rinsed off....but I don't see any advantage in makes assumptions or jumping to conclusions about it. ;)

  • One reason is that a lot of folks have dosed metro (one of your suggested meds) and other meds right into their reefs. I wouldn't do it or suggest it, but it happens and the reef tank apparently lives on.
  • Another reason is that many meds have to be continually re-dosed to maintain effective levels even in the treatment tank because they degrade so fast.
  • To wit: Gereral Cure appears to require a repeat dose every 48 hours, so hard to worry about that one. Seachem MetroPlex has the same dosing advice – re-dose every 48 hours.
Not every med is the same, and I could also be wrong abuot the whole thing (maybe not the whole thing :P) – but I still wouldn't deprive your buddy of the live rock during any medication you do.

The rock is more fungible than he is unless it's still live from the ocean too.

(No space, no way, no how for a 10 gallon hospital tank just for the duration of the med? Get some plastic plants for the hospital tank too if you can go that route.)
 
How is his behavior – any changes like flashing?

(It's hard to tell what you're referring to in the photo...can you kill your blue lights and/or use the flash on your camera?)

If you haven't ID'd any pests yet, why do you already know what you'd treat him with? o_O That's having the cart before the horse. ;)

Have you given him a freshwater dip at any point yet?

If you do suspect anything on him....be at least a little sure first, and then give him a freshwater dip. About 5 minutes...longer up to 15 minutes is ok if he seems to be cool with it. Sometimes little fish are more sensitive, so just pay attention. :)

BTW your quarantine tank is still way too barren to be no-stress.

I missed the corner-hiding comment earlier – that's not great, it's a sign of stress from the tank being too open. You'd hope to see swimming behavior instead and hiding among the cover in the tank vs in the corners. Some hiding can be normal, but corner hiding is not usual. Make sure the lights aren't very bright.

Adding some plastic plants would be the easiest way I can think of to give him some naturalistic cover. 1-3 plants should do it if they're good-sized compared to him, but if you don't have to pay much for them, go nuts and add several – he'll appreciate it!​

Rockin Meds
Concerns about the meds and the live rock are pretty well-founded and certainly well-intended :) :), but are also over-stated IMO. Especially in light of that being the tank's only real cover. (PVC alone doesn't cut it...especially not that one tiny piece.) Leave the rock in for best results. And if you're really afraid of it absorbing something (or whatever) then throw it away at the end or save it for QT-only usage. Both are legitimate options. But I'd keep it.

IMO the worst case scenario if you take care to remove the medicated water from the rock (maybe rinse 10 times or something) and place the rock into the display is that maybe it could have more algae problems than other rocks. Not a "real problem"....if that comes to pass, then remove the rock or handle the algae another way. Easy. :)

However, I'm not sure you'd even be able to notice the "medicated" rock compared to your dead rock.

I don't believe there's much if any chance at all of seeing actual effects from the medication you used in quarantine in your display tank.

Dilution alone would seem to be enough to kill that worry...

A dose consisting only of the residue of the med contained on live rock after 10 rinses, which is then diluted by the xxx gallons of seawater your display tank can't even be worth talking about, can it?

You can make the same considerations about efficacy (dosing) and dilution for any med you're considering....maybe you'll find some med that really is so nasty and foul that it really will ruin your rock and really can't even be rinsed off....but I don't see any advantage in makes assumptions or jumping to conclusions about it. ;)

  • One reason is that a lot of folks have dosed metro (one of your suggested meds) and other meds right into their reefs. I wouldn't do it or suggest it, but it happens and the reef tank apparently lives on.
  • Another reason is that many meds have to be continually re-dosed to maintain effective levels even in the treatment tank because they degrade so fast.
  • To wit: Gereral Cure appears to require a repeat dose every 48 hours, so hard to worry about that one. Seachem MetroPlex has the same dosing advice – re-dose every 48 hours.
Not every med is the same, and I could also be wrong abuot the whole thing (maybe not the whole thing :p) – but I still wouldn't deprive your buddy of the live rock during any medication you do.

The rock is more fungible than he is unless it's still live from the ocean too.

(No space, no way, no how for a 10 gallon hospital tank just for the duration of the med? Get some plastic plants for the hospital tank too if you can go that route.)

White spot on his side fin.
Any plastic plant on amazon is safe????

1. Behavior is fine. No flashing. It actually swims around all day. The corner hiding was just day 1 and 2. Now it swims around and comes up to me when I walk into the room. Comes up to the top to eat. And it eats a lot!! been feeding mysis with Selcon. It sleeps under the rock and sometimes in the top corners.
2. Lights are not bright at all. I only have the moonlights on. If I turn on the bright white lights it sees it's reflection and goes wild after it.
3. I have not given a FW dip yet.
4. If I were to re-use the Live rock, it would be in the dark part of the sump.
5. wife allowed a QT tank, not going to get another hospital tank, so this is what I will be using.

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Ok. I just started using selcon a few days ago. Will keep monitoring the fish. If the other 2 spots are ich, does ich spread fast?

It would be highly unusual to see ich on a rabbitfish. They possess a serum in their mucous coat which has been proven to kill ich and also shows antibacterial activity. Probably making them one of the most disease resistant fish around. ;)
 

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