180 FOT (FISH ONLY TANK)

[jinbing0905]

HI all I need help on my 180 FOT
1Emperor
2scribble angle
5 yellow tang
1 purple tang
1 solhal tang
1 passen angle
1 French angle
1 asfur angle
One Clow fish
They are breathing difficult and sometime shake Alot , and Alot of cloudy eye.
But they eat
What should I do?
Can medical I can put into the DT

 

[Humblefish]

Any white dots or specks on any of them? Swimming into the flow of a powerhead or purposely staying out of the light?

The optimist in me says this might just be flukes, which can be treated right in the DT via Prazipro: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/prazipro.247598/

A FW dip would confirm the presence of flukes if you can catch one of the fish: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/freshwater-dip.248898/

 

[aykwm]

^^ Agree, if you can take a photograph of the fish at closer range, because the fish in the picture are not that clear. And as humblefish told you do a 5 min fresh water dip (if fish got really stressed remove it) on one of the fishes, preferably the one showing most signs and check if any worms fall of.

Make sure that you use dark bucket so you can clearly see if any flukes come off, also make sure to match ph and temperature of water to reduce the shock on fish. Also if you will do a FW on tang they will play dead, don't worry about that, but remove them if breathing slowed down.

 

[4FordFamily]

With all of those tangs and angels and how they're all impacted my bet is that velvet is at least a component of this. Let us know the results of the dip asap please

 

[jinbing0905]

These no white spot

 

[jinbing0905]

If that help

 

[aykwm]

Looking at picture I can see tiny white spots all over the angelfish, can you confirm that?
If this is the case you would want to treat them immediately for possible marine velvet.

 

[jinbing0905]

What is a marine velvet?

 

[jinbing0905]

How to treat?

 

[blkhwkz]

What is a marine velvet?

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/velvet-amyloodinium-ocellatum.217570/

 

[aykwm]

If they are indeed tiny white spots that look like salt covering the whole fish then its velvet, you can treat with copper or chloroquine phosphate. You need to do that in a separate tank other than display if you have invertebrates or willing to add in the future since LR is porous and will absorb copper and possibly CP and inverts are very sensitive to these medications.

 

[Humblefish]

Looks like Marine Velvet Disease to me as well.

I've been down this road many times, and following this protocol has always delivered the highest survival rate: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/velvet-amyloodinium-ocellatum.217570/#post-2499437

 

[jinbing0905]

Have to treat velvet in the tank if I fix the fish

 

[jinbing0905]

I will not add any coral or inverts in future can I does cp is the DT

 

[Humblefish]

I will not add any coral or inverts in future can I does cp is the DT

CP will be biodegraded by the bacteria in your DT.

Copper is your only option: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/copper-treatment.193343/

But you will also need a compatible test kit: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/copper-test-kits.257924/

The Cu level will fluctuate in the early on, as the rock absorbs and then leaches the copper back out. Can take awhile to stabilize to a point where you are getting consistent readings.

 

[jinbing0905]

CP will be biodegraded by the bacteria in your DT.

Copper is your only option: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/copper-treatment.193343/

But you will also need a compatible test kit: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/copper-test-kits.257924/

The Cu level will fluctuate in the early on, as the rock absorbs and then leaches the copper back out. Can take awhile to stabilize to a point where you are getting consistent readings.

If I take out the live rock?

 

[aykwm]

You can take out the LR, but don't forget to monitor ammonia, also don't run UV or carbon when administering copper.

 

[jinbing0905]

You can take out the LR, but don't forget to monitor ammonia, also don't run UV or carbon when administering copper.

Will copper kill the good bacteria in the bio ball or bio block

 

[melypr1985]

I agree with velvet looking at those last pictures. Copper will kill some of the bacteria but not all and it usually bounces back to normal pretty quickly. Act quickly to start copper... I'd hate to see you lose any of those beautiful fish.

 

[jinbing0905]

I agree with velvet looking at those last pictures. Copper will kill some of the bacteria but not all and it usually bounces back to normal pretty quickly. Act quickly to start copper... I'd hate to see you lose any of those beautiful fish.

No ick?