180 FOT (FISH ONLY TANK)

[jinbing0905]

I have 180 gal plus 120 gal sump how much copper should I start? And

 

[melypr1985]

No ich... That looks like classic velvet. You'll have to read the instructions on the bottle for the total needed then dose accordingly. Use the test kit each time to assure that you are not raising the levels too fast. You want to spread out the dosing over a 24 hour period since velvet is so dangerous.

 

[jinbing0905]

Opt 1 If I take out and put all the fish on a qt tank and speed up temperature in the DT . The parasites will die itself seen there is no host for them. That will be 8 week of no fish in DT?
Option 2 is to take out the live rock and and put copper on the DT to kill it all

 

[aykwm]

You can do both, its always better to treat in separate tank, but make sure it is large enough for them. What is your QT tank?

 

[jinbing0905]

Only 55 gal

 

[jinbing0905]

I have a 30 gal too

 

[aykwm]

If it was me i'll just treat the DT with copper as mentioned earlier, because you have 14 medium to large fish and most require 200+ gallons, and putting them in small quarantine tanks might stress them and cause aggression, especially if you want to go fallow for 8+ weeks.

 

[jinbing0905]

If it was me i'll just treat the DT with copper as mentioned earlier, because you have 14 medium to large fish and most require 200+ gallons, and putting them in small quarantine tanks might stress them and cause aggression, especially if you want to go fallow for 8+ weeks.

Thx If I go with copper I should just take th4 rock out start copper treatment

 

[jinbing0905]

Thx If I go with copper I should just take th4 rock out start copper treatment

Do I have to do fresh dip and waterbath and than copper?

 

[jinbing0905]

Also I have add prozipro in the tank can it be mix with copper?

 

[dh350twin]

If I may say, I have dealt with this first hand. And with the advise of @Humblefish
Removing the fish will stress them. I treated right in my DT with cupramine copper. I added the recommended dose and added the second dose the next day. I left my skimmer on but reactors off. Leaving the skimmer on and live rock in i did test daily and had to add a small amount in daily to keep the level at .05 I lost my pair of tinkeri butterfly's but every other fish has no visible signs of anything and acting very normal and eating again. This was only 2 weeks ago. The treatment will continue. Pm me if I can help further

 

[aykwm]

Thx If I go with copper I should just take th4 rock out start copper treatment

Yes take the rocks out, make sure there is no carbon or uv running.

Do I have to do fresh dip and waterbath and than copper?

You don't have to but is advisable to do fresh water bath or formalin/acriflavine bath to provide relief for the fish.

 

[aykwm]

Also I have add prozipro in the tank can it be mix with copper?

You can use them together, but prazipro is for flukes and will not treat velvet. If you suspect flukes or internal parasites then you can dose prazipro, otherwise its useless.

 

[jinbing0905]

You can use them together, but prazipro is for flukes and will not treat velvet. If you suspect flukes or internal parasites then you can dose prazipro, otherwise its useless.

Thx

 

[dh350twin]

You can use them together, but prazipro is for flukes and will not treat velvet. If you suspect flukes or internal parasites then you can dose prazipro, otherwise its useless.

And it may cause them to stop eating and that will weaken there immune system

 

[dh350twin]

Add that cupramine and keep us posted

 

[jinbing0905]

I was able to get a better pic

 

[jinbing0905]

Should ozone reactor be on or off during the treatment? @Humblefish

 

[Humblefish]

Should ozone reactor be on or off during the treatment? @Humblefish

From Randy:

Ozone may well rip into any organics chelating the copper. To the extent that happens and what the chelating organic is, the copper may become more or less toxic, and probably a bit less soluble.

Ozone may remove or alter organics bound to the copper, so could impact things like cupramine, making them more or less effective. It won't impact ordinary copper ions in seawater that are not bound to organics.

So unless you are using pure copper sulfate pentahydrate, I would discontinue use of ozone.

 

[jinbing0905]

I think my emperor just got infection too
I put copper in the tank already