8 Bulb Starfire - need help to get working

[monkeyCmonkeyDo]

Congrats u bought a 1990s or early 2000s fixture.
Just like buying an old car from the 60s or 70s it will need a run through. U will need to gut it and replace the ballasts. Sockets and wires at least imo with out seeing it.
Saw a tek 8 bulb for $75 here on the classifieds section just recently.
You got a great light their just needs a little tlc.
D

 

[nereefpat]

Saw a tek 8 bulb for $75 here on the classifieds section just recently.

Those Sunlight Company Tek fixtures are legit. So were their MH ballasts.

My Tek T5 is about 11 years old. I had to replace 1 of the 2 ballasts once a couple years ago.

 

[hrdneglcry]

Just an update. I have two more sockets working. This is actually enough light for my 90. The fans don't work. The led moonlight doesn't. I am including some pics. I think the led module is broken. There is a singe/melt mark on it. See Pic. The variable switch for the fan has some corrosion. Because its part of the circuit I wonder if it is the reason the fans don't come on. I have checked the wiring and nothing jumps out anywhere else. I wonder if I could connect the two wires going into the dial and bypass the dial. Or if I can find a new dial. I think the led module needs to be replaced then the moon led would work.

 

[hrdneglcry]

One dumb question. The acrylic shield is gone. The fans do not work. I tried a jumper where the two wires go into the power dial for the fans. The dial is rusted and I thought maybe thats why the fans did not work. For appearances the light would look nicer with a shield. I can replace it but with no fans it might be a bad move. Would it be ok to install a new shield without having working fans? I couldn't find a replacement dial to see if thats why the fans don't work. The light is 12 years old. But the fans look ok and like they should function.

 

[oreo54]

Snip wrong driver
sorry, looks like it's in Italy..

right driver..
Or England:

ODDLY same model # but different output as to mA.

Normally fans are not driven off a constant current driver though.
Pot should be able to be cut out of the circuit and the 2 wires wire nutted together.
Should be only 2 wires attached. It's just a variable resistor to limit the voltage to the fan.

The thick black and red looks to run from the driver to the moonlight.
The 2 black one red (thinner) coming out is a mystery.
Can you see where they go?
There may be another power supply for the fans under that center square cover.
Seems the fans run off the relays.

There is a "part" missing..

Do the fans list any data on them as to voltage and mA?

 

[hrdneglcry]

SLP03SS1

AC-DC-Driver-Led-Costant-Current-Waterproof-28W-100-240Vac-05-4Vdc-700mA-PF045-IP65-Class-II-L525xW265xH21mm

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Orig. driver is "sort of" available..
sorry, looks like it's in Italy..

Normally fans are not driven off a constant current driver though.
Pot should be able to be cut out of the circuit and the 2 wires wire nutted together.
Should be only 2 wires attached. It's just a variable resistor to limit the voltage to the fan.

The thick black and red looks to run from the driver to the moonlight.
The 2 black one red (thinner) coming out is a mystery.
Can you see where they go?
There may be another power supply for the fans under that center square cover.
Seems the fans run off the relays.

There is a "part" missing..

Do the fans list any data on them as to voltage and mA?

best I can tell the fans go into this green (relay?") I pulled the wires that are with the fans to check for oxodation but they were fine. No current at the adjustable fan dial. I did find the fans online so they are made still. But they look like they are ok. The driver is for the led. But I was looking to replace it incase some how it is looped with the fans. A lot of heat just from 4 lights. probably can't run with shield if no fans

 

[oreo54]

best I can tell the fans go into this green (relay?") I pulled the wires that are with the fans to check for oxodation but they were fine. No current at the adjustable fan dial. I did find the fans online so they are made still. But they look like they are ok. The driver is for the led. But I was looking to replace it incase some how it is looped with the fans. A lot of heat just from 4 lights. probably can't run with shield if no fans

Fans are 12V you have no 12v power supply. Must be under center shield
Bridging the 2 wires on the pot should give you 12v ..


If you do not have anything there it could be relays or the mystery power supply..

 

[hrdneglcry]

Fans are 12V you have no 12v power supply. Must be under center shield
Bridging the 2 wires on the pot should give you 12v ..


If you do not have anything there it could be relays or the mystery power supply..

The blue center wire is for the fans. The two blacks run to the led unless there is a driver in there. They share the same port on the green. A lot of wires run into the center aluminum shaft that the led is on. The led driver is partially melted. Hard to see in pic. You can see the wires running into the led.

 

[oreo54]

The blue center wire is for the fans. The two blacks run to the led unless there is a driver in there. They share the same port on the green. A lot of wires run into the center aluminum shaft that the led is on. The led driver is partially melted. Hard to see in pic. You can see the wires running into the led.

LED driver is not 12v.. And it's only for the LED

I'd bet there is something under the center cover.

 

[monkeyCmonkeyDo]

Hit up rapid led with these pictures. They will sell you a new pertometer and power supply. The rest is just positive and negative wires. Maybe a ground.
D

 

[oreo54]

Forgot to add ..take a VOM set to ohms(light unplugged).
As you turn the knob. It should ( commonly) go from zero to something.

https://www.techwalla.com/articles/how-to-wire-a-potentiometer-to-a-fan

Also depends on how many fans I believe.

 

[hrdneglcry]

Forgot to add ..take a VOM set to ohms(light unplugged).
As you turn the knob. It should ( commonly) go from zero to something.

https://www.techwalla.com/articles/how-to-wire-a-potentiometer-to-a-fan

Also depends on how many fans I believe.

Ok. Also, just wanted to add. I can get 6 to work. Two are supposed to be led but I can't check. I have four running. Tried to hook up two more and then none worked. So it has some issues. Took the two out. Had to unplug both plugs and hit them with a wire brush. Then got the four back working. Could be that a few of the bulbs are old. I have the light hanging.

 

[Smite]

You may have checked but have you put eyes on the box prior to the fixture for an empty port, for a 12vdc input? ATI has a separate 12v power supply that terminates at that box. By junction box, I'm referring to the white box where your 2 power cords turn into 1 headed to the fixture.

EDIT: I saw the box in your first video when you were flicking your power strip reset.

 

[hrdneglcry]

You may have checked but have you put eyes on the box prior to the fixture for an empty port, for a 12vdc input? ATI has a separate 12v power supply that terminates at that box. By junction box, I'm referring to the white box where your 2 power cords turn into 1 headed to the fixture.

EDIT: I saw the box in your first video when you were flicking your power strip reset.

Yes there is an empty port there. I did not know what it is for.

 

[monkeyCmonkeyDo]

Pover supply. 10-12v prob
Lol. D

 

[hrdneglcry]

Pover supply. 10-12v prob
Lol. D

Is it possible that 12v adapter runs the fans? And I am missing it? Why else woud a port be there? The ati one is for running the fans.

 

[monkeyCmonkeyDo]

Either the fans or the leds...
D

 

[oreo54]

Either the fans or the leds...
D

LED has it's own constant current driver.
loks like it ran one blue diode at 700mA
and YES you need a 12v source for the fans.. Where it is or isn't is??? atm.

 

[hrdneglcry]

Either the fans or the leds...
D

Used 12v supply from an led light not using. Fans are running! Yes I noticed a 12v port in the power box where the cords merge. Wondered whatbit was for. Fans work. Dial works. If I can ever find led driver this thing will mostly work. I did contact that company someone posted. They told me go to amazon.

 

[monkeyCmonkeyDo]

Rapid led. Just get a nano power supply.
D