a thought on euphillia

[Wiz]

I understand this. But that is why people do not go by scientific names. What it really is does not matter as much as what it looks like to your average hobbies I would argue

I know and that's the problem. It's a common name about a polyp that gets developed and is filled with water. The core of it is still a hammer. *I believe.*

 

[Wiz]

Sorry my internet is weird right nowd

 

[Wiz]

Sorry

 

[TomatoSauceTy]

I understand this. But that is why people do not go by scientific names. What it really is does not matter as much as what it looks like to your average hobbies I would argue

That's where you are wrong. People DO go by the scientific names and that's the ONLY name that should matter! Average hobbyist = cash cow to most businesses.

 

[Wiz]

Well we will agree to disagree on that one. I've been in almost 10years. Idc if its euphillia,disxoma, fungia. I like the look or I don't. Thats the crux of it. and if people cared so much about the scientific name we would be using it in my opinion. People don't buy zoas cuz there called rastahs. They buy them for the color and look. Same with all coral imo

 

[Wiz]

I think you just need to find what suits you...what you are describing is the same thing that makes me upset about people saying this coral is "x" color.

People see colors differently. Not shapes. Not too mention lighting affecting color and again not shape.

 

[TomatoSauceTy]

Well we will agree to disagree on that one. I've been in almost 10years. Idc if its euphillia,disxoma, fungia. I like the look or I don't. Thats the crux of it. and if people cared so much about the scientific name we would be using it in my opinion. People don't buy zoas cuz there called rastahs. They buy them for the color and look. Same with all coral imo

So state what you really want, you want "designer" euphyllia.

I use scientific names all of the time. I see blue tang written all the time on this forum yet I still have no idea what a blue tang is...but I do know what a Paracanthurus hepatus is.

Scientific names are used so everyone knows what everyone is talking about, common names are made up by every kid on the corner and we pick and choose which one to follow.

 

[TomatoSauceTy]

People see colors differently. Not shapes. Not too mention lighting affecting color and again not shape.

Really, because I could of sworn that grape looked just like a torch and the shape of a hammer really is subjective...

Shouldn't Euphyllia paraanchora really be called rubber mallet coral?

 

[Wiz]

No I want a branching frogspawn that looks like frog eggs. "Frogspawn". Not these "frogspawns that look like hammers, frogs, and torchs all at once. Lol I want this

 

[Wiz]

You think this looks like a torch????

Really, because I could of sworn that grape looked just like a torch and the shape of a hammer really is subjective...

Shouldn't Euphyllia paraanchora really be called rubber mallet coral?

 

[TomatoSauceTy]

You think this looks like a torch????

Um, Yeah, I do.

 

[Wiz]

The arms are clearly less clustered evenly spaced and grape coral clearly shows its bone inbetween tentacles. But ok

Um, Yeah, I do.

 

[Wiz]

You seriously think the arms are less clustered and evenly spaced? How do you know that isn't a single head of grape coral???

Enjoy your mistake.

Ok. Sry I bothered you man. Bye

 

[cmcoker]

Are you seriously this hard headed?

If a toy poodle doesn't have the proper coat does that no longer make it a toy poodle?

Well, it's still a poodle.. But people would probably question it's lineage, and ask if it's a mix, probably want to see the parents.
And the breeder may offer a discounted price since it doesn't meet the breed standard.. Or may call it a labradoodle or golden doodle or whatever doodle, and charge double
And it may not be used to make any other poodles, by a "responsible" breeder..

Just sayin..

 

[TomatoSauceTy]

Well, it's still a poodle.. But people would probably question it's lineage, and ask if it's a mix, probably want to see the parents.
And the breeder may offer a discounted price since it doesn't meet the breed standard.. Or may call it a labradoodle or golden doodle or whatever doodle, and charge double
And it may not be used to make any other poodles, by a "responsible" breeder..

Just sayin..

You bring up a good point, but I'm strictly talking about a pure bred poodle, their coats can vary, but it's still a poodle. I'm not talking about mixing breeds.

In the fish "hobby" culling is accepted of fish, should we start doing this to corals? I don't think so for both.

Do you also think corals should have documented lineage? I think it's an extreme joke right now. If only you could neuter corals...

 

[cmcoker]

You bring up a good point, but I'm strictly talking about a pure bred poodle, their coats can be vary, but it's still a poodle. I'm not talking about mixing breeds.

I'm not either.

My point was that an unscrupulous breeder could call it a designer dog name and charge more.

Alternatively, they could have a pure breed pup of one type and sell it as different breed, many you wouldn't be able to tell until it was mature.

Rat terrier and chihuahua puppies look very similar, for instance.

A vet I worked with told me of a case where a man had chihuahua puppies for sale (flea market type thing). Those he didn't sell, he had their tails docked and they were sold as rat terrier puppies the next time.

I've seen people pay $3000 for a labradoodle that they only got shared ownership of the dog with the breeder..

And what makes it a pure bred poodle, anyway?

 

[Wiz]

No one uses scientific names. Unless its gor a posative id. Which as you yourself can be difficult even wuth access to skeletal structure. People use the common names. Lfs use common names, reef websites use common names. They might tell you the scientific name as well. But the common name is bold.

So state what you really want, you want "designer" euphyllia.

I use scientific names all of the time. I see blue tang written all the time on this forum yet I still have no idea what a blue tang is...but I do know what a Paracanthurus hepatus is.

Scientific names are used so everyone knows what everyone is talking about, common names are made up by every kid on the corner and we pick and choose which one to follow.

 

[cmcoker]

Oh, I should phrase that differently..

Where did the wild pure bred poodles come from?

 

[Wiz]

Notice the part about the skeleton sticking out. And here is an open wall hammer. Not sure why that mattered

Description
What do Euphyllia Corals look like: The skeleton of the Grape Coral E. cristata has short stubby branches, with all the heads of the branch tops being very compact and close together. The septa, or small protrusions of the skeletal structure located at the head can be seen in-between the tentacles of the polyps at times. The polyps extend during the day and only partially at night. The tentacles of the Grape Coral are green to brownish green, They are topped with oval contrasting blunt tips that can be yellow, cream, pink. lavender or pale-orange. They do not branch like those on the Frogspawn Coral E. divisa, and are shorter than those on the Torch Coral E. glabrescens. E. cristata form colonies and their polyps have the ability to completely retract into the skeleton. When feeding, the individual tentacles can elongate 2 to 3 times their normal state. Some colonies can reach 1.5 feet (46 cm). Lifespan is unknown.

You seriously think the arms are less clustered and evenly spaced? How do you know that isn't a single head of grape coral??? I love how you get the most unhealthy pictures of corals...a grape coral doesn't show it's skeleton like you have posted. You posted a wall hammer that shows all of the edges of the wall...10 years huh?

Enjoy your mistake.

 

[Wiz]

The idea that you think these two look alike is telling.

Um, Yeah, I do.