Algae issues? Why dont more people use algae scrubbers?

[jason2459]

Are they running blue for that or to try to get that crazy color they saw in the pictures they ordered from?

 

[KrisReef]

I'm all for arguing my point but this thread is crazy to me. Some of the most helpful and highly regarded figures in the hobby are saying get your heads out the bucket, there's more going on there. But that falls on deaf ears... I don't understand. I don't need to walk around the earth to believe its round, I can build off the knowledge or people smarter and more experienced than myself. You all realize who you're arguing right? I'll bet my house on the fact that all 3 of them know more this than the rest of us combined

You are totally wrong. The purpose of being right is to have an argument so that others who may also be right can feel like you are insulting them, when in fact everyone disagrees for the purpose of not understanding what the original source of confusion was.

Today is my wifes birthday, so thanks to all who have contributed to a fantastic rumble in the build up to the worst day of my year. I bought and signed all the cards myself and so I will not have to listen to discussion about how this kid or that one didn't send her a birthday card. She even has a card from her Grandson, who is one and cant write yet.

@Reefering1 , do you think she'll figure it out since I put all the cards into one envelop? My day is going to be long, I hope everyone on here has a clearer discussion that what I just wrote.

Thanks to everyone who has contributed to the angst and discussion leading up to this point, wish me luck.

 

[Reefering1]

You are totally wrong. The purpose of being right is to have an argument so that others who may also be right can feel like you are insulting them, when in fact everyone disagrees for the purpose of not understanding what the original source of confusion was.

Today is my wifes birthday, so thanks to all who have contributed to a fantastic rumble in the build up to the worst day of my year. I bought and signed all the cards myself and so I will not have to listen to discussion about how this kid or that one didn't send her a birthday card. She even has a card from her Grandson, who is one and cant write yet.

@Reefering1 , do you think she'll figure it out since I put all the cards into one envelop? My day is going to be long, I hope everyone on here has a clearer discussion that what I just wrote.

Thanks to everyone who has contributed to the angst and discussion leading up to this point, wish me luck.

Well.. if I'm understanding correctly, I'd say that you're wrong about me being wrong that you're wrong

 

[Reefering1]

You are totally wrong. The purpose of being right is to have an argument so that others who may also be right can feel like you are insulting them, when in fact everyone disagrees for the purpose of not understanding what the original source of confusion was.

Today is my wifes birthday, so thanks to all who have contributed to a fantastic rumble in the build up to the worst day of my year. I bought and signed all the cards myself and so I will not have to listen to discussion about how this kid or that one didn't send her a birthday card. She even has a card from her Grandson, who is one and cant write yet.

@Reefering1 , do you think she'll figure it out since I put all the cards into one envelop? My day is going to be long, I hope everyone on here has a clearer discussion that what I just wrote.

Thanks to everyone who has contributed to the angst and discussion leading up to this point, wish me luck.

Good luck with "your" big day today buddy!!

 

[exnisstech]

Disclaimer: I have never used an ATS. Not really on topic but can anyone recommend a small scrubber that might fit in the sump of a reefer 170 that won't break the bank? I have 3 tanks running and the 170 is the only tank that struggles with nuisance algae in the DT, mostly gha. I run a chaeto fuge on all 3 tanks but I run them for the life forms that live there as I think chaeto is poor at lowering nutrients and I don't have a problem with excessive nutrients, at least those that I can measure. After reading through this post I would like to try a ATS just to see if it helps with the algae on the DT. Inquiring minds and all that

 

[jason2459]

Disclaimer: I have never used an ATS. Not really on topic but can anyone recommend a small scrubber that might fit in the sump of a reefer 170 that won't break the bank? I have 3 tanks running and the 170 is the only tank that struggles with nuisance algae in the DT, mostly gha. I run a chaeto fuge on all 3 tanks but I run them for the life forms that live there as I think chaeto is poor at lowering nutrients and I don't have a problem with excessive nutrients, at least those that I can measure. After reading through this post I would like to try a ATS just to see if it helps with the algae on the DT. Inquiring minds and all that

Can check out WSR on eBay. He makes lots of different options from in sump, hang on back, over top, down flow, side flow, etc. He also makes refugium lighting and chaeto tumblers. Good bang for the buck in my experience with a quad side flow.

Pardon Our Interruption...

 

[rtparty]

If more people used algae scrubber............. there would be no need to run these un- natural looking blue windex looking reef tanks...alot of that blue mentality stemmed from a need to control "in tank' algae..
a scrubber would allow use of a more natural and visually appealing spectrum closer to natural sunlight in our tanks...

Windex tanks didn’t come about from wanting to control algae. They came about because corals look way better under blue to most hobbyists.

We were all running 6500k halides when we decided to use the UVL Actinic T12 bulbs for better color. Had nothing to do with controlling algae

 

[Reefering1]

And then the designer corals, that only look good under blue light, drove it to the extreme

 

[jason2459]

VHO Actinic are the the best pops I've seen.

 

[OutColdCRNA]

Can people post pics of their home made ones?

I made a simple one for my 65 gallon AIO. Has worked pretty well up to this point!

 

[VintageReefer]

Sigh.
2013. Here is my tank with a scrubber and white lighting. My use of a scrubber and my use of heavy blue light have nothing to do with each other. My use of blue light has nothing to do with algae also. I have grown to prefer the neon look and pop. I have white on for like 2 hours a day.

Anyway. Scrubber on a white tank being successful at controlling algae. I did have a ecoxotic led bar but it was like 15 watts and drastically was overpowered by the 500 watt phoenix 14k and 216 watt of t5. Sheesh

 

[tweeter]

There was a point when I had hair algae growing every where, I tried the Turbo Aquatics Scrubber and although it was growing Algae it was still growing in my Display Tank. I eventually took it out and just kept scrubbing my rocks. My tank finally Matured and I don't get any now. My Tank gets cleaned by my inverts and fish. The only place it will grow is inside my power heads.

So true!

 

[rtparty]

VHO Actinic are the the best pops I've seen.

The AI Blade Glow reminds me a ton of the old VHO actinic. The Blade is even better IMO as you can get a little more spectrum to highlight certain colors if you want.

I’d like to see the second version of Blade cut out a few royal blues for more violets though

 

[Hot2na]

Here is my tank with a scrubber and white lighting

who are you kidding ? that looks very blue to me ...

Windex tanks didn’t come about from wanting to control algae.

sure did...everywhere u look on R2R..you see complaints from folks with unwanted algae when they crank up the white spectrum..
take a look at some of our european counterparts these days..I see a trend back to more of a 10k look overseas ..and I find it very REFRESHING....

 

[Garf]

who are you kidding ? that looks very blue to me ...

sure did...everywhere u look on R2R..you see complaints from folks with unwanted algae when they crank up the white spectrum..
take a look at some of our european counterparts these days..I see a trend back to more of a 10k look overseas ..and I find it very REFRESHING....

I expect the nutritional value of green algae to be severely compromised grown under predominantly blue light, effecting herbivores. Now, brown and red algae’s and photosynthetic bacteria, they would just love it blue. Always white for me. Blurple for scrubbers is said to be more efficient but I didn’t notice any difference just using whites.

 

[mizimmer90]

I'm all for arguing my point but this thread is crazy to me. Some of the most helpful and highly regarded figures in the hobby are saying get your heads out the bucket, there's more going on there. But that falls on deaf ears... I don't understand. I don't need to walk around the earth to believe its round, I can build off the knowledge or people smarter and more experienced than myself. You all realize who you're arguing right? I'll bet my house on the fact that all 3 of them know more this than the rest of us combined

^^ appeal to authority. Just because someone is well known doesn't make them right lol. Happy to discuss data

 

[rtparty]

who are you kidding ? that looks very blue to me ...

sure did...everywhere u look on R2R..you see complaints from folks with unwanted algae when they crank up the white spectrum..
take a look at some of our european counterparts these days..I see a trend back to more of a 10k look overseas ..and I find it very REFRESHING....

You do know the hobby was around long before R2R, right?

Blues became popular long before R2R started

 

[VintageReefer]

who are you kidding ? that looks very blue to me ...

Blame poor quality iPhone cameras a decade ago. The tank in that pic is lit by 2x250w phoenix 14k halides
4x54w t5 - coral plus, coral plus, blue plus, coral plus

A very popular and widely used combo back then, in person it wast not blue or actinic looking at all.

 

[Hot2na]

You do know the hobby was around long before R2R, right?

Blues became popular long before R2R started

I've been doing this since 1975 ,skippy ...long before actinic 03 and halides

 

[rtparty]

I've been doing this since 1975 ,skippy ...long before actinic 03 and halides

Then you should know blues didn’t dominate the landscape to simply “fight algae” like you claimed