Amphidinium Dinoflagellate Treatment Methods

[Mark]

I'm on day 6 and as you can see in the pictures, my dino's continue to thrive. I figured I would start seeing signs of regression by now.

What species is that?

 

[RMS18]

I am starting my temp increase today. Normally I run 77.5-78.5. will start increasing .5 a day until I get to 82-83. Hoping this works! If it does it will be amazing as it's been almost a year of fighting on and off. A couple of pictures for progression documenting. Ahh the wonderful Amphidinium.

Anyone seeing any poor effects on fish or inverts?

 

[taricha]

Thanks to those documenting. Successes and failure observations are all helpful.
For those trying temp elevation, scope photos of your cells. And measure pH if possible (a pet theory of mine)

 

[JPK_Esquire]

Sounds fine, I'd still wait 7 days or more at 82F. I still had Dino's at the 4 day mark. I'd do the chemiclean during week 2, and keep the temps up. I think both Cyano and Dino's compete for top spot when your nutrients bottom out. When I treated Cyano with chemi-clean, Dino's took their place. If Dino's are dying, you could see Cyano coming back. I would check your nitrate and phosphates and ensure they are not bottomed out.

Thanks will do. Should I siphon out the sand through a micron sock and put the water back in?

 

[Cooper 2020]

This is the dinos we have

Raised from 79f over 3 days, I am currently on day 7 at 83 degrees F so far no change at all to the dinos.
LPS are more unhappy than before
BTAs are fine
SPS fine
Fish a lot more active and more hungry
Gem tang unhappy but may be due to constant Carbon changes.
Had a large amount of white sponge which has died off maybe coincidence or the temperature increase.
Already run a 85 watt UV
Nitrate holds at 7
Phos at 0.06 approx neither have ever been zero

Initial temperature raise reduced alk update to half, after a few days uptake started to increase again.
PH not changed much at all

Dinos are there before lights up

Max lighting period

I will run for 10 days and see how everything is then, I am blowing off the rocks everyday to remove the dead sponge and any brown dinos settling on the rocks.

So far nothing positive to report. For the people this is working for did yours just disappear or gradually reduce?

 

[cedwards04]

I'm on day 7. At day 6 (yesterday), they were getting really bad. I siphoned the sand, filtered through a sock, and put the water back in the tank. They are already showing back up again today. Im starting to lose confidence. They seem to be thrieving still. I see absolutely no signs of regression at all.

 

[JCTReefer]

I'm on day 7. At day 6 (yesterday), they were getting really bad. I siphoned the sand, filtered through a sock, and put the water back in the tank. They are already showing back up again today. Im starting to lose confidence. They seem to be thrieving still. I see absolutely no signs of regression at all.

This really sucks. I was contemplating trying the temperature method. I figure for an organism that been around “likely millions of years” and survived/adapted to its surroundings, this would be too good to be true. I despise dinos. Been battling for months now. Bummer.

 

[cedwards04]

I've been battling since January. I keep threatening to shut it down but I just can't make myself do it. I'm just about at the end of ideas though. I may not have a choice but to drain the tank.

 

[dwest]

This is the dinos we have

Raised from 79f over 3 days, I am currently on day 7 at 83 degrees F so far no change at all to the dinos.
LPS are more unhappy than before
BTAs are fine
SPS fine
Fish a lot more active and more hungry
Gem tang unhappy but may be due to constant Carbon changes.
Had a large amount of white sponge which has died off maybe coincidence or the temperature increase.
Already run a 85 watt UV
Nitrate holds at 7
Phos at 0.06 approx neither have ever been zero

Initial temperature raise reduced alk update to half, after a few days uptake started to increase again.
PH not changed much at all

Dinos are there before lights up

Max lighting period

I will run for 10 days and see how everything is then, I am blowing off the rocks everyday to remove the dead sponge and any brown dinos settling on the rocks.

So far nothing positive to report. For the people this is working for did yours just disappear or gradually reduce?

Beautiful fish.

 

[dwest]

I've been battling since January. I keep threatening to shut it down but I just can't make myself do it. I'm just about at the end of ideas though. I may not have a choice but to drain the tank.

I haven’t read your previous information, but I removed my sand when I felt like you do. Then amphidinium went away.

 

[cedwards04]

I haven’t read your previous information, but I removed my sand when I felt like you do. Then amphidinium went away.

Were you able to add sand back and keep dino's at bay. I really do not want a barebottom tank.

 

[Cooper 2020]

I haven’t read your previous information, but I removed my sand when I felt like you do. Then amphidinium went away.

Did you put the sand back in at some point or stayed bare?

 

[dwest]

I didn’t want a bare bottom tank. Removing sand was the last thing I wanted to do. I have not added any sand back. My tank is thriving and I’m not screwing it up.

 

[cedwards04]

Here is a sample of what I just pulled off my sandbed as of a few minutes ago. Not sure what that big thing is, or what the Mercedes-Benz emblem looking thing is haha. Dino's are very active. They were moving around a lot.

 

[dwest]

Mercedes= diatom I believe. It’s good to see stuff other than dinos. I’m guessing the big guy might be a mangled copepod.

 

[bobssecrtsn]

Have you guys tried cutting your lighting period back ?

 

[cedwards04]

Have you guys tried cutting your lighting period back ?

I have, as well as a 9 day blackout. They still come back after a few days.

 

[merereef]

I have, as well as a 9 day blackout. They still come back after a few days.

Let me ask you... are you syphoning the sand? Blowing rocks basting the sand etc in any way?

 

[cedwards04]

I was siphoning the sand daily, filtering the water through a sock, pumping it through a 25 watt pentair aquatics uv sterilizer, then returning it to the tank. I did that for a while. Sand would stay clear, but as soon as I stopped siphoning daily, they are back. There is just no way I can keep up daily siphoning.

 

[merereef]

I was siphoning the sand daily, filtering the water through a sock, pumping it through a 25 watt pentair aquatics uv sterilizer, then returning it to the tank. I did that for a while. Sand would stay clear, but as soon as I stopped siphoning daily, they are back. There is just no way I can keep up daily siphoning.

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