Best alternative to quarantine?

[Lionfish hunter]

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Now that's the pot calling the kettle black...

being rude and arrogant to people (especially when you’re plain wrong) is quite different from being rude and arrogant because you call that person out. Wouldn’t you say?

 

[EeyoreIsMySpiritAnimal]

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being rude and arrogant to people (especially when you’re plain wrong) is quite different from being rude and arrogant because you call that person out. Wouldn’t you say?

Again... the hypocrisy is amazing. Many of your posts have been quite abrasive

 

[Lionfish hunter]

Again... the hypocrisy is amazing. Many of your posts have been quite abrasive

No there is no hypocrisy, wether I have been rude or not. I said he was rude and looked like a fool. That does not imply that I have not been. Again, wether my previous posts before that were rude or not. Weren’t ment to be, but could have been interpreted so.

 

[TheyGaveItToMe]

Putting a new dog that appears to be in good health in a kennel and loading it with medication because something might be wrong with it sounds terrible.

You should be giving your dog Ivermectin and Safeguard bi-monthly. When I get a dog it is literally the first thing I do, followed by rabies vaccination and canine 9-way. Your example sucks.

 

[FSP]

Your example sucks.

The dog example comes up a lot, but it can be spun so many ways.

What a coincidence, I think so too Point was comparing dogs to fish doesn't make sense to me.

 

[Lost in the Sauce]

Should have read his website description on tank raised mandarins buddy. Unless you are claiming Mike is lying, because that’s the only scenario where I’m lying to myself? See the attached image.

You are correct. He does not medicate that specific fish. They are observed for 76 days.

THAT Is Not the quarantine procedure of Dr. Reefs quarantine fish. I see now you are talking about Mandy's only.

For the record, I've taken two blue mandarins through 30 days of copper treatment just fine....

You need to keep it straight. You come on here being rude and arrogant. And now you look like a fool.

Can you read! Take a look at almost every one of your posts in this thread alone. Rude and arrogant you say..

 

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Where do you find the qt fish on your site?

Adding it soon.

Did a test on local clients first which went well. Next is offering it on the site

 

[blaxsun]

How did we end up comparing dogs...? I sleep in one morning...

 

[FSP]

Seems to come up every qt thread when folks start accusing other folks who don't qt (*prophylactically medicate) of not providing the best life for their fish.

 

[Lionfish hunter]

How did we end up comparing dogs...? I sleep in one morning...

Confused me too

 

[blaxsun]

Confused me too

Other than our dog and fish both seem to have ways of getting our attention that it's time to be fed (the dog "rings" the absorption rocks in her water bowl and my parrotfish spits water at me).

 

[PlumberDude]

If I ever screw up and let ich in, I would try uv to control it. I think people don’t use it more because if you research up for ich there are a ton of posts that say don’t use it. While it will not cure ich, you won’t find anybody talking about how it can drastically reduce their numbers. And that is huge for controlling parasites.

All 9 of my tangs had ich real bad on Saturday when i added a 40 watt UV and started running it at 15.5 gpm on my return. So every bit of water that goes down the overflow is “treated” per say. Today most of the fish were considerably better. Some just had a spot or two. Others were still fairly infected but much better than they were Saturday. It’s a 270 gallon system.
I also run a closed loop at 6k gallons per hour to keep the water moving around the display tank.
People can say what they want about UV‘s but they work well if sized properly and the correct flow is ran through them. My glass hardly has any algae growth either. Anyway just thought I’d share my experience. I will update my progress in a few weeks to share how it’s coming along.

 

[Paul B]

The problem with Paul b is that he is old and wrote a book. So people give him credit because he has experience and wrote a book. But a really stupid person can get old and write a book. And people are blindly following him. Half the stuff he says is just totally out of left field, scientifically inaccurate, or just plain wrong.

LOL, I love this.. I didn't know I had a problem. But I am probably stupid

I think young people with very little to no experience should write books. Makes sense to me.

my experience is everything eventually dies when ich is introduced. And I have a lot of experience unfortunately

I am sorry you can't keep a simple organism like ich from killing your fish.

But even if you can keep it at bay. You have something in your tank that will kill your fish as soon as one of them gets sick or has their immune system compromised for any number of reasons.

You do know that my tank has been running for 51 years with no communicable diseases in 45 years don't you?

I noticed you were asking Randy how to eliminate ich on your fish after quarantine. How did that work out?

And yes, I am old, very old in fact so I won't be around much longer I think when you get older and stupider, you should write a book of your practices.

You come on here being rude and arrogant

Exactly!

 

[Lionfish hunter]

I noticed you were asking Randy how to eliminate ich on your fish after quarantine. How did that work out?

Turns out it was mucus plugs that went away a week after copper. Fish is doing just fine. But I’m sure this blue tang would have have thrived living with ich right? Yeah I’ll take your work for it.

 

[Lionfish hunter]

LOL, I love this.. I didn't know I had a problem. But I am probably stupid

I think young people with very little to no experience should write books. Makes sense to me.

I am sorry you can't keep a simple organism like ich from killing your fish.

You do know that my tank has been running for 51 years with no communicable diseases in 45 years don't you?

I noticed you were asking Randy how to eliminate ich on your fish after quarantine. How did that work out?

And yes, I am old, very old in fact so I won't be around much longer I think when you get older and stupider, you should write a book of your practices.


Exactly!

Here is the fish you spoke of. Also I remember you saying many time if I’m not mistaken that moorish idols can’t be kept alive long term in the home aquarium. Mine is doing just fine going on 2 years with not trouble, has eaten every day of his life.

 

[Lionfish hunter]

LOL, I love this.. I didn't know I had a problem. But I am probably stupid

I think young people with very little to no experience should write books. Makes sense to me.

I am sorry you can't keep a simple organism like ich from killing your fish.

You do know that my tank has been running for 51 years with no communicable diseases in 45 years don't you?

I noticed you were asking Randy how to eliminate ich on your fish after quarantine. How did that work out?

And yes, I am old, very old in fact so I won't be around much longer I think when you get older and stupider, you should write a book of your practices.


Exactly!

Being old and having written a book does not mean you are smart and have good advice. You always tell me that as a response to my criticism like it somehow means I’m wrong.

 

[areefer01]

You are correct in what you said. But Paul B says over and over again his fish have immunity to ich. I have argued with him at length. The problem with Paul b is that he is old and wrote a book. So people give him credit because he has experience and wrote a book. But a really stupid person can get old and write a book. And people are blindly following him. Half the stuff he says is just totally out of left field, scientifically inaccurate, or just plain wrong.

You need to dial down the rhetoric. A lot. You say he is wrong, in left field, says scientifically inaccurate via posts, or just plain wrong yet you can't figure out your pH problem.

Hobbyist can disagree - no law against it and it can be good in some cases. But as an outsider when I read post after post from you going after Paul to me, an outsider, it is all V for Vendetta. Not cool. And this is someone who disagrees with a few things that he says but when I'm done, or he is, we both know where we stand and disagree yet maintain a respectful view of each other.

I don't know - maybe that is because we both belonged in a special fraternity. I don't know but holy h3ll you need to dial it way down.

 

[Lionfish hunter]

You need to dial down the rhetoric. A lot. You say he is wrong, in left field, says scientifically inaccurate via posts, or just plain wrong yet you can't figure out your pH problem.

Hobbyist can disagree - no law against it and it can be good in some cases. But as an outsider when I read post after post from you going after Paul to me, an outsider, it is all V for Vendetta. Not cool. And this is someone who disagrees with a few things that he says but when I'm done, or he is, we both know where we stand and disagree yet maintain a respectful view of each other.

I don't know - maybe that is because we both belonged in a special fraternity. I don't know but holy h3ll you need to dial it way down.

I can’t figue out my ph problem? Ha! My ph problem is every ph test kit and probe reads a different number. Are you serious? I can’t say he is wrong on parasites because hobby grade ph testers are garbage? Get out of here, that is crazy.

 

[Lionfish hunter]

You need to dial down the rhetoric. A lot. You say he is wrong, in left field, says scientifically inaccurate via posts, or just plain wrong yet you can't figure out your pH problem.

Hobbyist can disagree - no law against it and it can be good in some cases. But as an outsider when I read post after post from you going after Paul to me, an outsider, it is all V for Vendetta. Not cool. And this is someone who disagrees with a few things that he says but when I'm done, or he is, we both know where we stand and disagree yet maintain a respectful view of each other.

I don't know - maybe that is because we both belonged in a special fraternity. I don't know but holy h3ll you need to dial it way down.

I have a thriving moorish idol living with 5 very aggressive tangs and an ultra aggressive queen angel. All been together quite awhile. With all kinds of coral and a maxima clam. Many things in the above statement are said to be impossible by some very well known people in this hobby. And it works because I have decades of experience on how everything was set up. All with basically no water changes and perfect water chemistry according to icp. Hard to keep acropora all thriving. And that picture I posted is over a year old as there are many more corals that are much larger. So don’t worry about my ph testers being unreliable, it’s irrelevant. I have more than enough real world experience failures and success with what I’m talking about to comment on why Paul has things wrong. And I believe what he says has a large impact on beginners failing and more importantly killing live animals that were stolen from their homes to die in somebody’s living room after less than a week. It is not V for Vendetta.

 

[Lionfish hunter]

You need to dial down the rhetoric. A lot. You say he is wrong, in left field, says scientifically inaccurate via posts, or just plain wrong yet you can't figure out your pH problem.

Hobbyist can disagree - no law against it and it can be good in some cases. But as an outsider when I read post after post from you going after Paul to me, an outsider, it is all V for Vendetta. Not cool. And this is someone who disagrees with a few things that he says but when I'm done, or he is, we both know where we stand and disagree yet maintain a respectful view of each other.

I don't know - maybe that is because we both belonged in a special fraternity. I don't know but holy h3ll you need to dial it way down.

I have a thriving moorish idol living with 5 very aggressive tangs and an ultra aggressive queen angel. All been together quite awhile. With all kinds of coral and a maxima clam. Many things in the above statement are said to be impossible by some very well known people in this hobby. And it works because I have decades of experience on how everything was set up. All with basically no water changes and perfect water chemistry according to icp. Hard to keep acropora all thriving. And that picture I posted is over a year old as there are many more corals that are much larger. So don’t worry about my ph testers being unreliable, it’s irrelevant. I have more than enough real world experience failures and success with what I’m talking about to comment on why Paul has things wrong. And I believe what he says has a large impact on beginners failing and more importantly killing live animals that were stolen from their homes to die in somebody’s living room after less than a week. It is not V for Vendetta.