Birdnest coralHELP!!!

To simplify for you, these do best at upper third to get good lighting and flow. Not blasting but good flow. You have some levels in need of adjustment.
target values are:

temp 77-79
Salinity 1.025
Ph. 8.2
Ammonia < .03
Nitrate < .04
Phosphate < .04
Mag 1300
Alk. 8-9
Ca. 440
Thanks for you input, I very much appreciate it. As of right now these are my readings. I shall test for phosphorus-nitrate and ammonia tomorrow
 

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Alk and ph are low. Rest are close
 
I'm not sure where/how/who birdsnest corals got filed under 'easy beginner sps' but it was probably the same guy who thinks panther groupers are good for small tanks.

Birdsnests are among the most nutrient fickle corals I've ever had. They excel in large, mature tanks and in those conditions can grow absurdly fast with zero maintenance. In younger tanks forget it. The slightest phosphate dive or nitrate spike causes them to freak out and polyp bail or RTN. Meanwhile my blue stag acros are saying 'stop being a drama queen'.

Blue or green digipora or pocillopora are beginner SPS. They can tolerate bouncy nutrients in young tanks. Not birdsnests.
 
I'm not sure where/how/who birdsnest corals got filed under 'easy beginner sps' but it was probably the same guy who thinks panther groupers are good for small tanks.

Birdsnests are among the most nutrient fickle corals I've ever had. They excel in large, mature tanks and in those conditions can grow absurdly fast with zero maintenance. In younger tanks forget it. The slightest phosphate dive or nitrate spike causes them to freak out and polyp bail or RTN. Meanwhile my blue stag acros are saying 'stop being a drama queen'.

Blue or green digipora or pocillopora are beginner SPS. They can tolerate bouncy nutrients in young tanks. Not birdsnests.
As mentioned before, I have come to realize this hobby has SOOOOO many different views, opinions, guidance. It’s really hard for someone with my knowledge to get reliable information. With that being said (knock on wood) that’s the only coral that has gone on me. My tank is still very young tho so we will see how this plays out.
from this thread forward I have decided to ask here for opinions before purchasing anymore livestock.
 
Okay, lots of things going on here. First, your tank is too new to successfully keep SPS (I know that's difficult to hear, but that doesn't make it less true ... I know it's disappointing). Second, you can't chase "optimal" numbers and hook up some equipment and dose this and that to find success. Stability is key. Getting to the right number is not key, stability is key (stability isn't about a number, it's about very slow or NO change from day to day and week to week). There is a wide range of parameters successful SPS owners run ... by and large, their response on what made them successful wasn't the number, or dosing this and that to maintain that number, it was just keeping it stable and keeping your hands out of the tank (not intervening).
 
Okay, lots of things going on here. First, your tank is too new to successfully keep SPS (I know that's difficult to hear, but that doesn't make it less true ... I know it's disappointing). Second, you can't chase "optimal" numbers and hook up some equipment and dose this and that to find success. Stability is key. Getting to the right number is not key, stability is key (stability isn't about a number, it's about very slow or NO change from day to day and week to week). There is a wide range of parameters successful SPS owners run ... by and large, their response on what made them successful wasn't the number, or dosing this and that to maintain that number, it was just keeping it stable and keeping your hands out of the tank (not intervening).
To be honest, I wasn’t after the birdsnest. My wife liked it and the store owner said yea it’ll work. I tried and it didn’t work. At first I thought it was because of the diatom bloom I had so tried again. Simply because I wanted to make my wife happy. Again it didn’t work. So I educated myself a bit more and here I am. You would think the store owner would know more than me????
As for the equipment I set up, its not to cheat the system but simply to help me make sure I’m not messing anything up by my lack of knowledge. I don’t want to harm any live stock so by trying to maintain a more stable water parameters I was hoping to do just that. I have stayed away from many corals I really like simply because my tank is too young.
 
To be honest, I wasn’t after the birdsnest. My wife liked it and the store owner said yea it’ll work. I tried and it didn’t work. At first I thought it was because of the diatom bloom I had so tried again. Simply because I wanted to make my wife happy. Again it didn’t work. So I educated myself a bit more and here I am. You would think the store owner would know more than me????
As for the equipment I set up, its not to cheat the system but simply to help me make sure I’m not messing anything up by my lack of knowledge. I don’t want to harm any live stock so by trying to maintain a more stable water parameters I was hoping to do just that. I have stayed away from many corals I really like simply because my tank is too young.
Oh yeah, for sure, getting equipment in your arsenal to help make things stable is def a good thing. My recommendation is to find the equilibrium for your tank, and in an acceptable range, and then let that sit for a while.
 
Oh yeah, for sure, getting equipment in your arsenal to help make things stable is def a good thing. My recommendation is to find the equilibrium for your tank, and in an acceptable range, and then let that sit for a while.
For the longest time I thought I had things pretty stable and looking good, until I posted a pic and someone pointed out receding on my hammer. I sort of panicked. And to be honest I’m kind of panicking now lol
So I just set up this thing and I’m not sure how good I did specially after your last comment about SLOWLY stabilizing everything. Well it just did a test of my water and my magnesium went from 1255 to 1390.
I’m not genius but this doesn’t seem to be a slow approach to stability. Do you guys think this is bad that it jumped so fast?
I set it up so that with my testing with the trident the dos would automatically dose to my desired parameters. I just didn’t expect it to happen like this. I genuinely thought it would be a slow progress.
 
For the longest time I thought I had things pretty stable and looking good, until I posted a pic and someone pointed out receding on my hammer. I sort of panicked. And to be honest I’m kind of panicking now lol
So I just set up this thing and I’m not sure how good I did specially after your last comment about SLOWLY stabilizing everything. Well it just did a test of my water and my magnesium went from 1255 to 1390.
I’m not genius but this doesn’t seem to be a slow approach to stability. Do you guys think this is bad that it jumped so fast?
I set it up so that with my testing with the trident the dos would automatically dose to my desired parameters. I just didn’t expect it to happen like this. I genuinely thought it would be a slow progress.
Not necessarily :) Test readings can swing (and your tank would not go from 1255 Mg to 1390 Mg in a short amount of time ... so probably a testing anomaly) ... generally Mg consumption is on the order of about 10 over weeks, and is quickly corrected with water changes. Usually. Perhaps accept that your test kits (and the way you perform them) will vary. Sometimes wildy. Don't react to that. Give it some time and make changes very slowly based on trends you observe over several days (for Alk) and several weeks (for Mg and CA, both of which drop and increase minutely compared to observed Alk). I'd recommend just measuring and noting levels for a while. Observe the changes, and then make some decisions about what you find that is or isn't out of a normal range. Then make slow adjustments to get it to what you think is a better range.
 
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Not necessarily :) Test readings can swing (and your tank would not go from 1255 Mg to 1390 Mg in a short amount of time ... so probably a testing anomaly) ... generally Mg consumption is on the order of about 10 over weeks, and is quickly corrected with water changes. Usually. Perhaps accept that your test kits (and the way you perform them) will vary. Sometimes wildy. Don't react to that. Give it some time and make changes very slowly based on trends you observe over several days (for Alk) and several weeks (for Mg and CA, both of which drop and increase minutely compared to observed Alk). I'd recommend just measuring and noting levels for a while. Observe the changes, and then make some decisions about what you find that is or isn't out of a normal range. Then make slow adjustments to get it to what you think is a better range.
So yea from last night till today there has been 3 tests and yea my mag went up. And to be honest (it may just be me) but the corals look super happy.
 

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Coincidence you posted this. I have an eight month old tank and three months ago, I bought a 6-piece Battlebox. I dipped each piece in CoralX, placed each frag in the sand for a few days, and mounted them high light/high flow. Each of the six pieces is thriving: extending polyps, bright coloring, encrusting over rock structure, etc.

Two months ago I bought a few specific pieces from BC, including a Bird of Paradise bird's nest, which I thought were almost bullet proof. The specimen that I was sent looked super-healthy and I put it through the same acclimation and mounting, but in two weeks all of the tissue was melted away and I was left with a skeleton. I tried to move it around in different light and flow, but to no avail. I cannot explain it, but I just chalked it up to one of the mysteries of our hobby. Not a satisfying answer, but I could not think of another.
 
Coincidence you posted this. I have an eight month old tank and three months ago, I bought a 6-piece Battlebox. I dipped each piece in CoralX, placed each frag in the sand for a few days, and mounted them high light/high flow. Each of the six pieces is thriving: extending polyps, bright coloring, encrusting over rock structure, etc.

Two months ago I bought a few specific pieces from BC, including a Bird of Paradise bird's nest, which I thought were almost bullet proof. The specimen that I was sent looked super-healthy and I put it through the same acclimation and mounting, but in two weeks all of the tissue was melted away and I was left with a skeleton. I tried to move it around in different light and flow, but to no avail. I cannot explain it, but I just chalked it up to one of the mysteries of our hobby. Not a satisfying answer, but I could not think of another.
From what I have gathered from experienced reefers Is the birdsnest requires a well mature tank. 1-1.5 years min. You live and learn amigo one day we will be rockin birdsnest in our tank.... one day! Lol
 
I'm not sure where/how/who birdsnest corals got filed under 'easy beginner sps' but it was probably the same guy who thinks panther groupers are good for small tanks.

Birdsnests are among the most nutrient fickle corals I've ever had. They excel in large, mature tanks and in those conditions can grow absurdly fast with zero maintenance. In younger tanks forget it. The slightest phosphate dive or nitrate spike causes them to freak out and polyp bail or RTN. Meanwhile my blue stag acros are saying 'stop being a drama queen'.

Blue or green digipora or pocillopora are beginner SPS. They can tolerate bouncy nutrients in young tanks. Not birdsnests.
This exactly
 
From what I have gathered from experienced reefers Is the birdsnest requires a well mature tank. 1-1.5 years min. You live and learn amigo one day we will be rockin birdsnest in our tank.... one day! Lol
It’s not about the amount of time. It’s about the management of that time. Success isn’t as random as some think.
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Tank is 70d old. Growth from November to end December
 
It’s not about the amount of time. It’s about the management of that time. Success isn’t as random as some think.
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Tank is 70d old. Growth from November to end December
Wow beautiful. See it’s stuff like this that makes me question my existence lol. Beautiful. May I ask for any advice
 
Wow beautiful. See it’s stuff like this that makes me question my existence lol. Beautiful. May I ask for any advice
Learn. Keep your water first. Then keep only what you understand. Or you could be me and spend the better part of a decade learning from many many mistakes. I will say, starting my new system was a big help for my success. I was able to undo 10 years of mistakes and fixes, start fresh.
 
From what I have gathered from experienced reefers Is the birdsnest requires a well mature tank. 1-1.5 years min. You live and learn amigo one day we will be rockin birdsnest in our tank.... one day! Lol
I don't think that's true across the board (though it may be true in general). I've got 3 birdsnest that are all rocking and putting on growth in a 6-mth tank started with dry rock. I have noticed, though, that if you happen to dip into ultra low nutrient territory, they are not happy. I haven't seen them slough off tissue, though. They come bouncing right back when you bump up nutrients.
 

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