Black ich? In copper treatment for ich

[nightmarepl]

hey guys i have my yellow tang in s copper power treatment for marine ich it’s been in 2.0ppm copper power dosage for 30 days now today i noticed literally the same thing as ich but the dots are black they are like stick up off the skins like ich does not sure if it’s ich or black ich the copper is still 2.0ppm

What should i do or what should i treat with
@HotRocks

 

[Mjrenz]

hey guys i have my yellow tang in s copper power treatment for marine ich it’s been in 2.0ppm copper power dosage for 30 days now today i noticed literally the same thing as ich but the dots are black they are like stick up off the skins like ich does not sure if it’s ich or black ich the copper is still 2.0ppm

What should i do or what should i treat with
@HotRocks

Do you have a pic you could post to confirm the diagnosis? Prazi is going to be the safest treatment for black ich but you need to be very careful using it with copper, prazi reduces the available oxygen in the water and combining it with copper can cause a bacterial bloom that will further reduce oxygen. If he's already been in copper for 30 days you could probably end it and start with the prazi. Of course, @HotRocks will know better than I do though

 

[LAReefer4Life]

Copper doesn't treat black ich. You need to treat the same as you would for flukes. See thread below for information.

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/black-ich-turbellarians.259912/

 

[nightmarepl]

Copper doesn't treat black ich. You need to treat the same as you would for flukes. See thread below for information.

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/black-ich-turbellarians.259912/

sweet thanks i ordered prazi going to take it slow its 10g QT how much of this prazipro would you use for this

 

[LAReefer4Life]

sweet thanks i ordered prazi going to take it slow its 10g QT how much of this prazipro would you use for this

2.45ml for 10 gallon net water.

 

[nightmarepl]

2.45ml for 10 gallon net water.

sweet thanks man

 

[LAReefer4Life]

Keep us posted Good luck

 

[nightmarepl]

Keep us posted Good luck

i ordered the Prazipro comes in tomorrow after work ill dose 2.45 ML and see what happens i can slowly start doing bigger water changes with out copper to lower the levels hopefully the ich is gone for good

 

[LAReefer4Life]

You will need to get copper out of the water before dosing Prazi. Dose 2.45ml and then again 2.45ml 5-7 days later. 2 doses gets the job done.

 

[nightmarepl]

You will need to get copper out of the water before dosing Prazi. Dose 2.45ml and then again 2.45ml 5-7 days later. 2 doses gets the job done.

now would you do a water change in those 5-7 days then do a second dose or wait 5-7 and do a second dose into that medicated water

 

[Mjrenz]

now would you do a water change in those 5-7 days then do a second dose or wait 5-7 and do a second dose into that medicated water

Prazi degrades in the water column pretty quickly and does its work within 24 hours. The second dose in 5 to 7 days will kill any hatchlings the first dose didn't kill. It will be a good idea to do a water change after 24 hours because of how much prazi reduces available oxygen

 

[nightmarepl]

Prazi degrades in the water column pretty quickly and does its work within 24 hours. The second dose in 5 to 7 days will kill any hatchlings the first dose didn't kill. It will be a good idea to do a water change after 24 hours because of how much prazi reduces available oxygen

alright sounds good thanks for the advice

 

[LAReefer4Life]

Prazi degrades in the water column pretty quickly and does its work within 24 hours. The second dose in 5 to 7 days will kill any hatchlings the first dose didn't kill. It will be a good idea to do a water change after 24 hours because of how much prazi reduces available oxygen

+1

 

[nightmarepl]

Prazi degrades in the water column pretty quickly and does its work within 24 hours. The second dose in 5 to 7 days will kill any hatchlings the first dose didn't kill. It will be a good idea to do a water change after 24 hours because of how much prazi reduces available oxygen

So I’ve do 2 sets of doses it was gone for about 3 days just returned

 

[nightmarepl]

You will need to get copper out of the water before dosing Prazi. Dose 2.45ml and then again 2.45ml 5-7 days later. 2 doses gets the job done.

Did two doses still there Also upgraded the QT to a little bigger environment 13.5 gallons should i increase the doseage

 

[Mjrenz]

So I’ve do 2 sets of doses it was gone for about 3 days just returned

@HotRocks @4FordFamily @ngoodermuth

 

[4FordFamily]

Did two doses still there Also upgraded the QT to a little bigger environment 13.5 gallons should i increase the doseage

You can increase dosage or switch to hyposalinity. How far along are you in copper?

You can double the dose of prazi without ill effects to the fish, typically.

 

[HotRocks]

Most black ich lately is prazi resistant.

You will want to treat the fish with formalin.

However, make sure you aren't seeing scaring. If the spots were completely gone during treatment, it's likely not scaring.

The best way to be sure that the worms are completely gone is to put a white Molly in with them to be sure they are gone.

 

[Mjrenz]

You can increase dosage or switch to hyposalinity. How far along are you in copper?

You can double the dose of prazi without ill effects to the fish, typically.

Is fenbendazole an effective treatment for black ich?

 

[nightmarepl]

You can increase dosage or switch to hyposalinity. How far along are you in copper?

You can double the dose of prazi without ill effects to the fish, typically.

How much would you dose in 13gallons copper is pretty much done was in copper for 30+ days