Bought used tank, need advice

The Reef Octopus for sure. Is it local pick up?


It's local enough. Other side of Houston. Onky downside is the reviews I've read for it say it's loud. The setup will be in my living room and a slight hum isn't a bad thing, but if it was too loud, it would pose a problem.
 
Ambient room temp is a thing but never below 75 in the house should be ok cuz the pumps your looking to install will be making some heat of their own.

Most skimmers will be somewhat loud but you can put some foam under them to quiet them.

There are so many things I want to help you with but honestly its your system and you'll go w/e route you want with it. Reefing can be as hard or easy as you make it. I would however urge you on the RODI system even the 60$ aqua buddie system isn't bad I used it for a year or so before an upgrade presented itself. Also some test kits will help but really you don't need more than the basic test kits when starting out. Its not like your gonna blink and have a mixed reef like many senior members here post pics of. @saltyfilmfolks hit it best with lots of advice take it slow decide on the things YOU want most and then fit them into your budget from there. You can grow algae in your refugium and control your nitrates and phosphates w/o a skimmer with the right setup. Or you can do bio dosing and use a skimmer. Or you can just use skimmer. Or you can use a mix! The possibilities are endless here just let us know what your thoughts are to what you are interested in buying and a lot of us can help make suggestions...just remember those suggestions are not spending their money.
 
Ambient room temp is a thing but never below 75 in the house should be ok cuz the pumps your looking to install will be making some heat of their own.

Most skimmers will be somewhat loud but you can put some foam under them to quiet them.

There are so many things I want to help you with but honestly its your system and you'll go w/e route you want with it. Reefing can be as hard or easy as you make it. I would however urge you on the RODI system even the 60$ aqua buddie system isn't bad I used it for a year or so before an upgrade presented itself. Also some test kits will help but really you don't need more than the basic test kits when starting out. Its not like your gonna blink and have a mixed reef like many senior members here post pics of. @saltyfilmfolks hit it best with lots of advice take it slow decide on the things YOU want most and then fit them into your budget from there. You can grow algae in your refugium and control your nitrates and phosphates w/o a skimmer with the right setup. Or you can do bio dosing and use a skimmer. Or you can just use skimmer. Or you can use a mix! The possibilities are endless here just let us know what your thoughts are to what you are interested in buying and a lot of us can help make suggestions...just remember those suggestions are not spending their money.


Very true. I was told I don't need a skimmer to get the tank running and cycled, but I would eventually. I'm thinking my RO system would work, but I could be wrong.

I just want the tank to run as smoothly as possible. I realise there will be a learning curve, and some screw ups, but I want them to be on the smaller scale, if you know what I mean.
 
Oh I do, I didn't know much about the local reef clubs and or even this forum till I had been running for a year....by that time I had had some MAJOR set backs. In your shoes knowing what I know now. I would say yeah the RO system should be fine as the DI resin later if needed. My local stores use tap water and their stuff isn't dead. I would put that rock in leave without sand for now and get the plumbing done without drilling the tank. DIY overflows should be perfect for that. Then I would get a pump that does something in the realm of 1200gph-1600gph new or used doesn't matter much. I would fill that bad boy with tap water and test for leaks....from there I would drain it and refill with some saltwater. No light, no wave maker, no sand. Just saltwater moving around.....then I would look into how I want to improve. Personally I currently use algae turf scrubber and a skimmer and run a very clean system. My skimmers were used, my pumps are knock offs of really nice ones and my system is doing great as a 150gal mixed reef slowly becoming sps dominant. I'll follow along here if you have any questions tho but that would be my suggestions for the basics keeping wife agro in check.
 
I already have a 100gpd 4 stage RO system with float and check valve, plumbed to a 55 gallon black rain barrel I bought from Home Depot. Different hobby, but should work I would think. Tds of the barrel is sub 50ppm.
Sub 50 ppm is too high get a di stage for your filter https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/single-deionization-canister.html you need water with as close to 0 tds as possible. A di stage will bring down the tds to the levels you need
 
I already have a 100gpd 4 stage RO system with float and check valve, plumbed to a 55 gallon black rain barrel I bought from Home Depot. Different hobby, but should work I would think. Tds of the barrel is sub 50ppm.

We look for 000 TDS coming out of the RODI.

So it’s 50ppm while stored in the barrel? That seems high, especially since you don’t know what that 50ppm is. Rain water is in now way clean so I assume that rain barrel will leach all that has accumulated on its surfaces into the RODI. RODI water attracts anything it can get, even from the air. So if the barrel isn’t clean it will take up anything it can. That could include lots of things that you have no idea what they are or a way to know it’s ok. It maybe possible to clean it but I wouldn’t know how. I recommend you purchase another vessel that is actually rated food and drinking water safe. Brutes are labeled safe for food processing. They use all new material and it is inert so that nothing harmful will taint the food/water. 50ppm seems high to me and if my RODI water was that high I would never use it.
 
I'm so excited for you! Having just set up my first reef system I can say it's fantastic fun, stressful, exciting, humbling and downright interesting. The people of the forum here are a great help for anything you might have a question on.

In my humble opinion your RO/DI, Skimmer, return pump and circulation pumps are your most important items in that order. Lights can come much later after everything is cycled since you won't have corals for awhile yet.
In the meantime, while you're doing all that waiting have a look at these videos. This build by BRS covers almost everything you can think of about a reef tank.

 
I'm so excited for you! Having just set up my first reef system I can say it's fantastic fun, stressful, exciting, humbling and downright interesting. The people of the forum here are a great help for anything you might have a question on.

In my humble opinion your RO/DI, Skimmer, return pump and circulation pumps are your most important items in that order. Lights can come much later after everything is cycled since you won't have corals for awhile yet.
In the meantime, while you're doing all that waiting have a look at these videos. This build by BRS covers almost everything you can think of about a reef tank.


I second taking a good long review and notes from this BRS series -- it is great!
 
It's local enough. Other side of Houston. Onky downside is the reviews I've read for it say it's loud. The setup will be in my living room and a slight hum isn't a bad thing, but if it was too loud, it would pose a problem.

Which side of Houston are you on? I am down on the Southside -- Clear Lake area. Happy to point you to some local stores or resources
 
You can start with curing the rock. This can be done while you are researching and buying other equipment and needs. Conclusion:
Get RODI, Brute, refractometer w/calibration fluid, and start curing that rock.
Welcome!

+1 RODI is first step as you'll use a lot. Getting rock curing in a tub or brute can will save some time later and make you feel like you're doing something now. Also betting you'll need/want more rocks. I used Marco and pukani rock and would do so again. Order some and add that to what you have. Use your current pump and add a cheap heater, one that just keeps it at 78 degrees and you've started the process. You can buy rodi water or salt water to get this step going and have on hand some fresh rodi for top off from evaporation. Then get your own rodi set up. I have no sink in garage so mine is in the kitchen, mounted to the wall with the in hose going outside to a garden hose and the waste water also dumped outside (need to make the waste line longer to go into kitchen sink) I have 2 brutes. Both for fresh rodi water--one I use to mix salt, the other to have plain rodi water for top offs or to add to salt can if needed. The rest will come when you drill your tank, set it up where you want it, and start accumalating your equipment. Rock should go in first, depending on how you do it (lots of ways to put rock in: on glass, on egg crate, etc. but not on sand for stability with sand burrowers), then sand, then water!

What I did a year ago this month when I decided I wanted a tank, before I found my tank at the end of Nov., was to read, read, read. I signed up for kindle unlimited which allowed me to read a ton of epub saltwater books for 9.99 a month. You can check out up to 10 at a time. More than pays for itself or you can do the 1 month trial. I just tried to soak in as much as I could. I ended up with an AIO (all in one) so I didn't have to choose different pcs of equip. I also purchased the Jebao wave maker power heads and recently a new heater with a controller--not one that can controller other items, but just the heater. Again, cost effective and I can upgrade over time.

I will warn you. It's expensive. I can't believe how much $$ I've spent. I keep a spreadsheet and it's not the fish or coral, or even equipment or initial setup. It's the maintenance: test kits, dosing stuff, foods, light replacement every six months. And it's ongoing. When you run out of a test kit, guess what, ya gotta get a new one and now. I'm trying different ones. Red Sea is good but $$. Hannah is so worth it for alk (none of the others were reliable and most were guess work) and phosphate.

Also, in people's signatures, check for build threads so you can see what we've all done, how we did it, what questions we all asked etc. The more you read, from build threads, to forum threads, to outside books, the better you'll do.

So Welcome and start your own build thread. You can cut and paste your initial message here even
 
+1 RODI is first step as you'll use a lot. Getting rock curing in a tub or brute can will save some time later and make you feel like you're doing something now. Also betting you'll need/want more rocks. I used Marco and pukani rock and would do so again. Order some and add that to what you have. Use your current pump and add a cheap heater, one that just keeps it at 78 degrees and you've started the process. You can buy rodi water or salt water to get this step going and have on hand some fresh rodi for top off from evaporation. Then get your own rodi set up. I have no sink in garage so mine is in the kitchen, mounted to the wall with the in hose going outside to a garden hose and the waste water also dumped outside (need to make the waste line longer to go into kitchen sink) I have 2 brutes. Both for fresh rodi water--one I use to mix salt, the other to have plain rodi water for top offs or to add to salt can if needed. The rest will come when you drill your tank, set it up where you want it, and start accumalating your equipment. Rock should go in first, depending on how you do it (lots of ways to put rock in: on glass, on egg crate, etc. but not on sand for stability with sand burrowers), then sand, then water!

What I did a year ago this month when I decided I wanted a tank, before I found my tank at the end of Nov., was to read, read, read. I signed up for kindle unlimited which allowed me to read a ton of epub saltwater books for 9.99 a month. You can check out up to 10 at a time. More than pays for itself or you can do the 1 month trial. I just tried to soak in as much as I could. I ended up with an AIO (all in one) so I didn't have to choose different pcs of equip. I also purchased the Jebao wave maker power heads and recently a new heater with a controller--not one that can controller other items, but just the heater. Again, cost effective and I can upgrade over time.

I will warn you. It's expensive. I can't believe how much $$ I've spent. I keep a spreadsheet and it's not the fish or coral, or even equipment or initial setup. It's the maintenance: test kits, dosing stuff, foods, light replacement every six months. And it's ongoing. When you run out of a test kit, guess what, ya gotta get a new one and now. I'm trying different ones. Red Sea is good but $$. Hannah is so worth it for alk (none of the others were reliable and most were guess work) and phosphate.

Also, in people's signatures, check for build threads so you can see what we've all done, how we did it, what questions we all asked etc. The more you read, from build threads, to forum threads, to outside books, the better you'll do.

So Welcome and start your own build thread. You can cut and paste your initial message here even

Red Sea Pro refill kits will save you money when you test a lot like me
 
Red Sea Pro refill kits will save you money when you test a lot like me
I've done that as well. Right now I have the salifert mag and the api calcium just to try them out. I think the sal mag might test lower and the api cal test higher? I still have a bit of the RS cal and it is testing way low and the api testing where I'd expect it to be.
 
Personally, I want to get the mechanical side of this project finished first, before more rock and substrate. The budget has wiggle room, but I spent $500 today already and I think the wife will cut me off if I go much over 1k in the first week, haha.
If you are looking at the mechanical side of things then return pump, protein skimmer, and wavemakers/powerheads are the more necessary products for your tank. Sicce and Jebao are good quality return pumps that will last for years without issue and replacement parts are easy to find. For a protein skimmer you want to look for one rated at heavy bioload for your total system volume. Reef Octopus, Vertex, NYOS, Aquamaxx are all great brands with varying price ranges and designs so you can pick something that fits for you. Wavemakers are very important because proper flow in a tank will lead to much healthier corals and fish. You want to have somewhere between 20-40 times turnover per hour. This means that inside the display tank you want somewhere between 2400 and 4800 GPH of flow between the wavemakers and return pump. You also want to make sure your water temperature stays stable so a heater or a fan to encourage evaporation is usually more than enough to chill a tank.
RODI water filter is probably the most important product for your tank as this is where everything starts. Since you already have a 4stage filter you are going to want to set it up so you have: sediment filter>>carbon block>>RO membrane>>DI resin. I recommend Spectrapure products because they tend to perform better than competing products and will save you money on DI resin in the long run. If your water has chloramines you are going to want to make sure you purchase the proper carbon block for this and you may want to add an extra canister for two carbon blocks if you have higher than 1ppm levels. I recommend 1 micron sediment filters because it will extend the life of your carbon block and RO membrane. If you purchase a 99% rejection membrane then you can extend the life of your DI resin by up to twice as much which will also save you money. 000 TDS out of the RODI is very important for top off water and mixing new saltwater because it will prevent your "fresh" water from becoming a source of nutrients or toxins.
This hobby is a lot of fun if you take your time do things right and be patient with the progression of the tank. Good luck in setting up your aquarium and be sure to start a build thread so we can see how it progresses.
 
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Yes rodi no power head.

IMO those are too small.

Look for the WP 25. I have two in my 55g and they are too much.
Also the 25 are cheaper.
 

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