Byropsis keeps coming back help

[bruno3047]

Mine. Don’t look like it’s fallin to bits.

It’s actually awesome to know that you’re starting with a fresh slate, as far as pests and as far as algae.

 

[bruno3047]

I assumed this was well understood but putting a lid on a pot does prevent toxic fumes...which as i indicated earlier is a mich bigger risk than explosion(which is possible but less likely to be the issue). Toxins from sticking hands in the tank is not at all the same thing as toxins that are aersolized.

I thought we settled it. You do it your way I’ll do it my way. Btw. I’ve lived a somewhat risky life. Probably much riskier than yours. This risk doesn’t faze me. Later.

 

[Garf]

I thought we settled it. You do it your way I’ll do it my way. Btw. I’ve lived a somewhat risky life. Probably much riskier than yours. This risk doesn’t faze me. Later.

There’s a lot of very experienced folks on here, they are not always right. They are also not necessarily wrong. My experience with bryopsis, nuke it. I use kalk liquidised with 18% sodium hydroxide, initially.

 

[bruno3047]

There’s a lot of very experienced folks on here, they are not always right. They are also not necessarily wrong. My experience with bryopsis, nuke it. I use kalk liquidised with 18% sodium hydroxide, initially.

Actually, to be completely honest, I’m very disappointed in the level of knowledge on this board. I left this board years ago because people had become convinced that bio balls were a “nitrate factory“. And it was a very respected member of this board who told them that. It’s physically impossible to manufacture nitrate out of thin air. But that’s what people were saying. You can only have as many nitrate molecules as you start off with ammonia molecules. Period. You cannot manufacture nitrate out of thin air. Apparently, the level of common sense and basic knowledge of chemistry/physics has not improved. I only come here to try to help people who I think could use some help. I’ll probably stop doing that.

 

[mdb_talon]

Actually, to be completely honest, I’m very disappointed in the level of knowledge on this board. I left this board years ago because people had become convinced that bio balls were a “nitrate factory“. And it was a very respected member of this board who told them that. It’s physically impossible to manufacture nitrate out of thin air. But that’s what people were saying. You can only have as many nitrate molecules as you start off with ammonia molecules. Period. You cannot manufacture nitrate out of thin air. Apparently, the level of common sense and basic knowledge of chemistry/physics has not improved. I only come here to try to help people who I think could use some help. I’ll probably stop doing that.

Thats funny because you completely miss the argument of bioballs being a nitrate factory(not arguing they are or are not as too many variables).. the argument though has nothing to do with creating nitrate out of thin air but rather than bioballs can trap detritus that could otherwise be removed by socks/skimmers/floss etc prior to it breaking down into nitrates. The other argument for traditional bioballs being a nitrate factory is they are not porous materials so aerobic bacteria work great, but anaerobic bacteria do not...thus they do a great job of converting ammonia to nitrite to nitrate, but do nothing in converting nitrate to a gas.

Also FYI 1ppm ammonia = 3.6 nitrates.

 

[bruno3047]

Thats funny because you completely miss the argument of bioballs being a nitrate factory(not arguing they are or are not as too many variables).. the argument though has nothing to do with creating nitrate out of thin air but rather than bioballs can trap detritus that could otherwise be removed by socks/skimmers/floss etc prior to it breaking down into nitrates. The other argument for traditional bioballs being a nitrate factory is they are not porous materials so aerobic bacteria work great, but anaerobic bacteria do not...thus they do a great job of converting ammonia to nitrite to nitrate, but do nothing in converting nitrate to a gas.

Also FYI 1ppm ammonia = 3.6 nitrates.

Thats funny because you completely miss the argument of bioballs being a nitrate factory(not arguing they are or are not as too many variables).. the argument though has nothing to do with creating nitrate out of thin air but rather than bioballs can trap detritus that could otherwise be removed by socks/skimmers/floss etc prior to it breaking down into nitrates. The other argument for traditional bioballs being a nitrate factory is they are not porous materials so aerobic bacteria work great, but anaerobic bacteria do not...thus they do a great job of converting ammonia to nitrite to nitrate, but do nothing in converting nitrate to a gas.

Also FYI 1ppm ammonia = 3.6 nitrates.

And yet very few people on here clean their sand bed regularly. When was the last time you gave your sandbed a thorough cleaning? I guess you don’t think the sand bed can catch detritus, do you? Or is the detritus in your sand bed somehow better than the detritus that gets caught on your bio balls?

 

[areefer01]

I wasnt suggesting for you but rather the OP to know that it is a foolish option.

Let Darwin work its magic. It was recommended a few times to not boil, cook, or otherwise put rock in a home in boiling water. If they can't understand the basics they won't last long in the hobby. Which is actually good for it.

 

[bruno3047]

Let Darwin work its magic. It was recommended a few times to not boil, cook, or otherwise put rock in a home in boiling water. If they can't understand the basics they won't last long in the hobby. Which is actually good for it.

Darwin is on my side. Believe me.

 

[mdb_talon]

And yet very few people on here clean their sand bed regularly. When was the last time you gave your sandbed a thorough cleaning? I guess you don’t think the sand bed can catch detritus, do you? Or is the detritus in your sand bed somehow better than the detritus that gets caught on your bio balls?

You assume too much and know far too little. I dont use a sand bed. In any case as i clearly stated i was not arguing for/against bioballs just trying to help you understand nobody was suggesting bioballs generate nitrates out of thin air.

 

[bruno3047]

Let Darwin work its magic. It was recommended a few times to not boil, cook, or otherwise put rock in a home in boiling water. If they can't understand the basics they won't last long in the hobby. Which is actually good for it.

My just converted FOWLR tank. With Darwins help, of course.

 

[bruno3047]

I recently sold my 5-inch majestic angel, my 4-inch emperor angel, and my 3-inch flame angel. They were all coral eaters. I still have a 3-inch yellow bellied regal angel that is for sale in the classified section. $250.

 

[bruno3047]

Stand and canopy I recently finished for my 315 gallon complete DIY build that I expect to finish sometime this spring/summer. 120”L x 25.5H x 25D
BTW. Those are individual five watt LED lights that I wired myself into the canopy. I bought the LEDs on eBay and I bought the drivers at ledsupply.com. I’ll also be running 8x80 watt ATI T5s with individual reflectors, of course. Have a nice evening.

 

[bruno3047]

Some details. I’ll have a 29 gallon tank/ATO reservoir in back and then a 29 gallon quarantine tank in front in the left compartment. The ATO system will be plumbed into the main house RO filter, with a final stage DI resin filter in-line. The dosing system will also be in here. The center compartment will hold the filtration system. A DIY job out of a 40 breeder. The drip tray is extra large to hold Phosguard and Purigen bags. The right compartment will hold live food cultures. Maybe brine, maybe black worms, maybe both. There are four banks of T5s, individually timed, one bank of blue/violet LEDs, separately timed, and one bank of blue moonlights, separately timed. Timers are all built-in, of course.

 

[Ultra Aquatics]

Telling people to boil rocks is pretty irresponsible. All it takes is a few palys to be somewhere on there and you are releasing one of the deadliest toxins known into the air. People can die, but hey you boiled some rocks and lived so screw it right?

 

[Fredrxn]

problem is- Everything is being suggested except the MOST important thing- You MUST get rid of the roots. If not, it will come back again and again
A dental pick and some patience, , , , remove them one by one and soon it will be no more.
After you are done, adding chiton snails, nerite snails, ninja star snails, pitho crab will help control it

Should I dose flux rx agean?…

 

[vetteguy53081]

Should I dose flux rx agean?…

Up to you but I don’t trust fluconasal and regard it as an alternative and not a solution

 

[J1a]

Just curious. Dangerous in what way?

If you have some palythoa hiding in the rocks, boiling the rocks may aerosolise the palytoxins. Very dangerous for everyone in the house.

 

[Fredrxn]

Up to you but I don’t trust fluconasal and regard it as an alternative and not a solution

I read online that removeing byropsis from the rocks. Makes it Spread all over the tank is this True? I don’t like doseing flux..if there other means of getting rid of it then I will do that…wen I pull it off of the rock all of it dose not come off..is there any Bacteria that will help get rid of it?

 

[N.Sreefer]

I read online that removeing byropsis from the rocks. Makes it Spread all over the tank is this True? I don’t like doseing flux..if there other means of getting rid of it then I will do that…wen I pull it off of the rock all of it dose not come off..is there any Bacteria that will help get rid of it?

The only thing that worked for me was collectors urchins that species in particular loves bryopsis and ate over 90 percent of what was in my tank. Like others said you need to remove the roots which can be a chore nice thing about an urchin is their mouthpiece rasps a thin layer of rock of taking the roots with it. You wont find a bacteria that will be of any help.

Side note don't listen to the people suggesting to boil Live rock it really is as risky as others have said a man in Alaska hospitalized his whole family by doing so.

 

[Fredrxn]

The only thing that worked for me was collectors urchins that species in particular loves bryopsis and ate over 90 percent of what was in my tank. Like others said you need to remove the roots which can be a chore nice thing about an urchin is their mouthpiece rasps a thin layer of rock of taking the roots with it. You wont find a bacteria that will be of any help.

Side note don't listen to the people suggesting to boil Live rock it really is as risky as others have said a man in Alaska hospitalized his whole family by doing so.

I have a pin cushion Urchin..that seems to be eating it… so ur saying get a pair of Tweezers and start removing the byropsis?yea not boiling my rocks