Chemiclean Nuked tank!

[skybears]

yes they have to send me all of their compound numbers that were recorded in the laboratory to create the drug so all of these numbers are laboratory based numbers used to the percentage of the amount of microliters of the drug. At that point and gives a baseline of the drug showing all the compounds components and adjectives based on a milliliter

I'm sorry I'm doing two things at once so I'm trying to say this and then I'm doing paperwork also but many chemicals and drugs have to be identified obviously so what does chemical interactions are and have to be a percentage of that chemical to withstand that drug with interaction which brings you another percentage of how that drug response 2 a chemical situation with the intent for the purpose of the chemical which is approved as a drug IE a drug name

They're sending you the numbers?

 

[skybears]

I'm sorry I'm doing two things at once so I'm trying to say this and then I'm doing paperwork also but many chemicals and drugs have to be identified obviously so what does chemical interactions are and have to be a percentage of that chemical to withstand that drug with interaction which brings you another percentage of how that drug response 2 a chemical situation with the intent for the purpose of the chemical which is approved as a drug IE a drug name

And I have then speaking a lot on this thread so I feel kind of bad so I do send my apologies thank you to everybody for reading what I have wrote I'm going to read different threads have a a good night

 

[cromag27 Verified Sponsor]

I have their msds and it's useless. most are that utilize proprietary mixtures.

They have to it's like an msds but they don't have to release the concentrations or recipe. As that's the secret part. .

 

[skybears]

They have to it's like an msds but they don't have to release the concentrations or recipe. As that's the secret part. .

That my dear friend you are incorrect to get that drug official FDA they have to prove that the chemicals that they have produced to create a stage name drug has to be approved so all of those said based chemicals have to be released so yes they do have to release everything known to in order to be FDA-approved if it's not FDA-approved yet they can do anything they want but they have to come through me first

 

[cromag27 Verified Sponsor]

Don't feel bad. I think you've gotten farther than the rest of us over the past 45 years!

And I have then speaking a lot on this thread so I feel kind of bad so I do send my apologies thank you to everybody for reading what I have wrote I'm going to read different threads have a a good night

 

[skybears]

That my dear friend you are incorrect to get that drug official FDA they have to prove that the chemicals that they have produced to create a stage name drug has to be approved so all of those said based chemicals have to be released so yes they do have to release everything known to in order to be FDA-approved if it's not FDA-approved yet they can do anything they want but they have to come through me first

Let me add a little bit more than that so if there is an issue and after his questions on that issue after you can pull up all numbers and chemicals returning to identifying parties and classifications to approve then all parties must make all the FDA standards at that point it does not have to be released said Drug Company can keep everything to themselves but should be FDA-approved they have to prove the compounds enzymes and bacteria is within the drug to make the said drug so there is a process if they do have to release all pertaining information regarding a potential human or non-human adjective based on a proven medication now if it is a medication that has already been put on the Shelf they are required by FDA as long as as long as the patent is only 12 months of length they have to explode all ingredients in medication. In other words you could go to Walmart you could go to the feed store and you will find the same medications on the same shelf you will see generic brands vs name brand generic brands have to follow the same dosing that name brands use IE a difference chemical adjective of the way the dosing of the medication is being given that does not have to be released

 

[skybears]

But really I'm not a book and I do not quote things to attend to the things that are my knowledge base of what I learned on from my employer I hope you guys understand what I'm saying you might not but I'm going to finally I'm going to stop I swear

 

[cromag27 Verified Sponsor]

Are you related to a guy named Walter white?

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

I have their msds and it's useless. most are that utilize proprietary mixtures.

Nah. Jus sayin. They have to release the info.

 

[Rick.45cal]

Got any paly's? I'd put my money on some member of your zoa collection (that possesses palyotoxin) got real unhappy and decided to release palyotoxin. Just my guess (which is only worth what you have paid for it.)

No one else has mentioned this so I will throw this out there as a possibility. Is this complete tissue loss on the affected skeleton? Because a total bleaching event looks identical to the naked eye. Especially in the first week or so. If you have a mesoscope or a strong magnifying glass see if you can detect any sign of tissue or bleached polyps. If it is a bleaching event then there is a possibility that the corals can recover from it. Sometimes they expel their symbionts because the conditions become unfavorable to the algae. I wouldn't give up on them unless you are 100% positive it's a bare skeleton.

What are your parameters? Particularly Nitrate and Phosphate?
Did any testable parameter make a major swing?

Sorry for your experience. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you!

 

[skybears]

Got any paly's? I'd put my money on some member of your zoa collection (that possesses palyotoxin) got real unhappy and decided to release palyotoxin. Just my guess (which is only worth what you have paid for it.)

No one else has mentioned this so I will throw this out there as a possibility. Is this complete tissue loss on the affected skeleton? Because a total bleaching event looks identical to the naked eye. Especially in the first week or so. If you have a mesoscope or a strong magnifying glass see if you can detect any sign of tissue or bleached polyps. If it is a bleaching event then there is a possibility that the corals can recover from it. Sometimes they expel their symbionts because the conditions become unfavorable to the algae. I wouldn't give up on them unless you are 100% positive it's a bare skeleton.

What are your parameters? Particularly Nitrate and Phosphate?
Did any testable parameter make a major swing?

Sorry for your experience. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you!

I can tell you from my standpoint that there's a lot of issues that you stated in the information above that are technically true I'm not going to tell you which ones yet but yes you are correct on some of your inclinations

 

[skybears]

Nah. Jus sayin. They have to release the info.

If they want to be FDA-approved yes they do

 

[cromag27 Verified Sponsor]

@Knapp870

How does it look today?

 

[Brew12]

For those who want to brush up on their German..... (or use an online translator!)
http://archiv.korallenriff.de/06_chemieclean.html

 

[Brew12]

For those who want to brush up on their German..... (or use an online translator!)
http://archiv.korallenriff.de/06_chemieclean.html

For the less ambitious, here is a fraction of the webpage in mostly English.

The result was as expected:
It may well antibiotics contained in the agent ChemiClean, namely, according to analysis of the laboratory exactly 320 mg / KG . It is a Phys./chem investigation. (LC-MS / MS) test report number: AR-06-JJ-076115-01 and sample number: 703-2006-00076098
start investigation 07/08/2006
end examination 30.08.2006

This antibiotic was found in the laboratory is called erythromycin. This is a very favorable Breibandantibiotikum which is located in the cent range.

 

[reeferfoxx]

For the less ambitious, here is a fraction of the webpage in mostly English.

The result was as expected:
It may well antibiotics contained in the agent ChemiClean, namely, according to analysis of the laboratory exactly 320 mg / KG . It is a Phys./chem investigation. (LC-MS / MS) test report number: AR-06-JJ-076115-01 and sample number: 703-2006-00076098
start investigation 07/08/2006
end examination 30.08.2006

This antibiotic was found in the laboratory is called erythromycin. This is a very favorable Breibandantibiotikum which is located in the cent range.

FWIW the Germans banned Red Bull, claiming it contained traces of cocaine...

 

[Brew12]

FWIW the Germans banned Red Bull, claiming it contained traces of cocaine...

Yeah, but that was only in some states for a few months.

I wish I could pull up the lab report but my German isn't good enough and I can't get a translator to work on the page.

 

[reeferfoxx]

Yeah, but that was only in some states for a few months.

I wish I could pull up the lab report but my German isn't good enough and I can't get a translator to work on the page.

If Em was contained, wouldn't it's effects be similar to API E.M. on freshwater cyano? The effect shows the green turns white?

 

[Brew12]

If Em was contained, wouldn't it's effects be similar to API E.M. on freshwater cyano? The effect shows the green turns white?

Good question and not one I know the answer to. I might have to dig into this one a bit.

It could have something to do with the surfactant that they add. And I believe they also add enzymes. Another quote to Germany from Boyd "it does not Directly kill any microfauna. It works by 'cleaning' the aquarium." Is it possible the antibiotic causes it to break apart where it is surrounded by the enzymes and removed by the surfactant?

 

[Elementalj]

Good question and not one I know the answer to. I might have to dig into this one a bit.

It could have something to do with the surfactant that they add. And I believe they also add enzymes. Another quote to Germany from Boyd "it does not Directly kill any microfauna. It works by 'cleaning' the aquarium." Is it possible the antibiotic causes it to break apart where it is surrounded by the enzymes and removed by the surfactant?

Sounds like the action is a surfactant to separate organic waste from surfaces to be skimmed or filtered out. I'd bet the chemical surfactant has chelating properties as well.