Emergency help all fish in tank died

[Bape47]

Okay here we go, you had the right idea to use live rock from your previous tank but you simply overstocked too soon and most likely caused an ammonia spike which is poison and stresses the fish out severely causing ich and as Someone else mentioned Brooke as well (another deadly disease).

You got yourself into a rough situation and you can’t just add more stuff to the tank to fix it.

IF your yellow tang and 3 Chromis survive you will HAVE to quarantine them in a separate tank and treat, there are many methods but copper is most common.

You also now have ich in your main tank and will HAVE to leave it fishless for 72 days, there are theories and methods to lessen this time. Off the top I believe they are

1.) hyposalinity (lowering salt level)

and 2.) increasing temperature (which will kill ich faster ) but not possible for you if you plan on keeping the corals and shrimp in there unless you get a SECOND quarantine tank.

basically you now have ich in your tank and the ONLY way to safely proceed is by buying a separate “quarantine” tank putting your surviving fish in it.

It seems like your wanting to simply treat the fish let them heal and get back to adding stuff in theory this COULD work but it probably won’t and the ich in your system will just keep attacking and killing new fish.

i will try to catch all fish out and put in new tank leave my main tank no fish in 3 months i guess,but how i can treat the main tank now? low salt lvl? or treat the copper i posted? cause i want to keep my coral shrimp snails in main tank

 

[Bape47]

Ruby reef rally bath, Qt tank with CP, and prayers.

which copper u prefer?

 

[living_tribunal]

no i didnt add any new fish,they just dying everyday now

I would take the remaining fish out and place into quarantine.

What are you looking at that shows ich?
I would like to learn for my own knowledge
Sorry about your tank

I could be a bit mistaken, and it’s hard to tell from the picture, but the small white dots on the underside of the fish.

The dots seem more noticeable on the next tang picture.

Only really comparing to other pictures of fish with tang though, I’ve never spotted it myself and shouldn’t have made the definitive statement so quick.

 

[Hemmdog]

i will try to catch all fish out and put in new tank leave my main tank no fish in 3 months i guess,but how i can treat the main tank now? low salt lvl? or treat the copper i posted? cause i want to keep my coral shrimp snails in main tank

Just leave it as is. The life cycle of the parasite is completely done after 72 days. If there’s no fish(host) it can’t survive.

 

[Mykawl]

i will try to catch all fish out and put in new tank leave my main tank no fish in 3 months i guess,but how i can treat the main tank now? low salt lvl? or treat the copper i posted? cause i want to keep my coral shrimp snails in main tank

You don’t have to do anything to the main tank but leave it fishless for 72 days.

If you wanted to lessen that time I’d wait for someone more experienced to chime in. But that would probably be hyposalinity or temperature related BOTH of which are NOT possible with shrimp / corals in the tank.

 

[sfin52]

I think you have all the Ich vevet and Brook. Those kill fish but combined they will kill quicker. Capture and place into qt tanks with an alert badge to monitor ammonia and nitrite.

 

[Hemmdog]

which copper u prefer?

Copper power.

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[sfin52]

@ngoodermuth your really good with stuff .

 

[mcdrichj]

Please just know that you CAN NOT put copper in you display with corals and inverts!!!!!

 

[siggy]

Sorry about your fish, I truly am. . Been 3 plus years for me and I am still not sure of much and rely on the folks here! Best of Luck!

 

[Mykawl]

All that being said quarantining fish is no joke and requires a complete understanding of the process. Or more to the point dealing with ammonia. Which will just kill your remaining fish in the same manner the others died, if you try and put 3 Chromis and a yellow tang into a 10 gallon quarantine tank it probably isn’t going to end well.

 

[Bape47]

All that being said quarantining fish is no joke and requires a complete understanding of the process. Or more to the point dealing with ammonia. Which will just kill your remaining fish in the same manner the others died, if you try and put 3 Chromis and a yellow tang into a 10 gallon quarantine tank it probably isn’t going to end well.

already move them to another tank.display tank only coral snails shrimp now..ill leave it like that for 3 months after and buying new fish again

 

[living_tribunal]

already move them to another tank.display tank only coral snails shrimp now..ill leave it like that for 3 months after and buying new fish again

Make sure to quarantine the fish for a month before placing into the tank, start with just 1-2 smaller fish, and I’m sure you will find success!

 

[bstodds15]

Make sure to quarantine the fish for a month before placing into the tank, start with just 1-2 smaller fish, and I’m sure you will find success!

He's referring to new fish you get. Don't put any fish in the display tank for 3 months (preferably longer) so any parasites can die.

 

[Dave Gold]

The PolypLab Treatment for Ich seems to work pretty well and is less hard on inverts and coral. You might want to try that, treating your main tank, instead of setting up a quarantine tank.

 

[Bape47]

He's referring to new fish you get. Don't put any fish in the display tank for 3 months (preferably longer) so any parasites can die.

yup no fish for few months

 

[Mykawl]

Two more things I want to add, your LFS seems to be taking advantage of you and just wants to sell you stuff or they don’t know what they’re talking about or both. There’s hundreds of thousands of hours of knowledge and research on this site and it’s free.

And this last part will need expert input but if money is no issue I’m sure you could remove rock and sand, drain tank, clean the ******** out of it with vinegar and table salt and basically start over.

The part I’m unsure of is if removing and allowing rock / sand to completely dry will deal with the ich.

Ofcourse if you do this it would no longer be live rock and everything will die on it.

Again I wouldn’t do this unless someone else confirms it will work. If it would, then simply buy dr Tim’s all in one ($5) which is a bacteria supplement containing all the good stuff to jump start your cycle and accordingly some bacteria food, dr Tim’s ammonium chloride (another $5).

Then simply wait out the cycle which should only take 1-3 weeks.

Whatever you decide to do if you make a post of it and ask for advice people can offer more input and how to fine tune the strategy.

I.e. buying a variety of bacteria is a great idea like bio Spira (another $5) and also the proper amount. Your tank seems large and buying the proper amount of bacteria would speed up the process (closer to $20 a bottle.)

There is also the issue of your corals and inverts I think people will generally say shrimp aren’t a worry as far as carrying the ich spores or the parasite itself and it couldnpossivle be on the drag plugs/corals themselves and I have no idea if coral dips would deal with that.

and jsut cover all bases you would need to thoroughly clean all equipment and allow it to dry if you decided to go that route.

The smartest thing to do though is just wait out the ich and take these 72 days to do some research.

I really enjoyed the BRS 52 weeks of reefing series on YouTube.

 

[Bape47]

Two more things I want to add, your LFS seems to be taking advantage of you and just wants to sell you stuff or they don’t know what they’re talking about or both. There’s hundreds of thousands of hours of knowledge and research on this site and it’s free.

And this last part will need expert input but if money is no issue I’m sure you could remove rock and sand, drain tank, clean the ******** out of it with vinegar and table salt and basically start over.

The part I’m unsure of is if removing and allowing rock / sand to completely dry will deal with the ich.

Ofcourse if you do this it would no longer be live rock and everything will die on it.

Again I wouldn’t do this unless someone else confirms it will work. If it would, then simply buy dr Tim’s all in one ($5) which is a bacteria supplement containing all the good stuff to jump start your cycle and accordingly some bacteria food, dr Tim’s ammonium chloride (another $5).

Then simply wait out the cycle which should only take 1-3 weeks.

Whatever you decide to do if you make a post of it and ask for advice people can offer more input and how to fine tune the strategy.

I.e. buying a variety of bacteria is a great idea like bio Spira (another $5) and also the proper amount. Your tank seems large and buying the proper amount of bacteria would speed up the process (closer to $20 a bottle.)

There is also the issue of your corals and inverts I think people will generally say shrimp aren’t a worry as far as carrying the ich spores or the parasite itself and it couldnpossivle be on the drag plugs/corals themselves and I have no idea if coral dips would deal with that.

and jsut cover all bases you would need to thoroughly clean all equipment and allow it to dry if you decided to go that route.

The smartest thing to do though is just wait out the ich and take these 72 days to do some research.

I really enjoyed the BRS 52 weeks of reefing series on YouTube.

i gonna move to new house next month so

 

[bstodds15]

i gonna move to new house next month so

Not to sound like an jerk, but why would you set up a new tank when you knew you were moving in a few weeks? This is where the patience part of the hobby comes in.

Also you should probably find a new LFS, like Mykawl said, they're most likely taking advantage of you. Any good LFS would have asked "What size tank is this tang going into". If they didn't then they might just not be very knowledgeable.

 

[Mykawl]

Sounds like a good strategy then, again I’d want confirmation by others that allowing the rock and sand to dry would deal with ich and if running the tank with tap water would kill ich that got into the equipment etc. and also how to deal with the shrimp and corals, not sure.